Jammer94
06-15-2008 | 09:23 AM
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Jammer94
I know ive read bad things about him on here before, but ive also read alot of good so i figured i would gamble. I posted a wtb ad stating that i needed a keyed hub and rear seal housing. He pm's me and tells me he has what i need. He even says he has the bolts for the rear housing. I get my parts about a week later and receive a factory unkeyed hub and a rear housing cover with no bolts. The bolts weren't really that big of a deal, but i have no use for the hub since i already have an old hub and my crank is keyed. I pm him about it and he says he didnt know i wanted a keyed hub 
I asked for a partial refund for the hub and i would return it, but then he says he only charged me for the rear cover and threw the hub in free 
(you can buy the housings brand new at gmpartsdirect for $18... I paid jammer94 $50) Then he goes on to say he lost money on his part blah blah. So i say fine... how bout you send me the bolts and the bolt that i need for my camshaft retainer plate (just assuming he had one as he has all sorts of odds and ends) and well call it even then. NO RESPONSE.
I filed a paypal claim for item not as described but paypal is worthless if its not on ebay
Just warning others... There are now 2 transactions that i know of that jammer94 has not made right as of today. BEWARE!!!
I asked for a partial refund for the hub and i would return it, but then he says he only charged me for the rear cover and threw the hub in free (you can buy the housings brand new at gmpartsdirect for $18... I paid jammer94 $50) Then he goes on to say he lost money on his part blah blah. So i say fine... how bout you send me the bolts and the bolt that i need for my camshaft retainer plate (just assuming he had one as he has all sorts of odds and ends) and well call it even then. NO RESPONSE.I filed a paypal claim for item not as described but paypal is worthless if its not on ebay
Just warning others... There are now 2 transactions that i know of that jammer94 has not made right as of today. BEWARE!!!
06-17-2008 | 05:55 PM
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you filed a claim way before you tried contacting me about the hub being incorrect please and i also included the hub in as part of the sale i had no idea gmpartsdirect sells them for w/e i never knew that why didnt you buy one knowing that then?Geeshh you find out you could get it somewhere else cheaper after the FACT and then want your money back your the friggin POS..as good as the $15 your posting this over.
06-17-2008 | 08:48 PM
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i knew i could get the rear seal housing cover cheaper than $50 beforehand, but i was paying for a KEYED hub AND the rear seal. dumbass. $15? try $50. Not a lot of money to you maybe but it is to me... just to get ripped off. I waited 3 days for you to reply after i filed with paypal, and you were even online within those 3 days and made posts. get real. Just saying... buyers think twice before dealing with this scam artist. he has been banned from other forums before for ripping people off. /my fault for not taking the advice in not buying from him.
06-17-2008 | 10:24 PM
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no get real is that it was $15 to ship plus the 3% paypal fee on the $50 then i was charging you like $25-$30 for the rear sail retainer and i had told you i was giving you the HUB for FREE but NO you think someone is going to give away a $150 hub for free you should have known right there it was a stocker and not an aftermarket one and in the end what would it have been split down the middle of $25-$30.....................tada $15 each item and for this you blow up a thread lil OAR.
Last edited by jammer94; 06-17-2008 at 10:31 PM. Reason: name calling removed
06-17-2008 | 10:29 PM
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Name calling removed. Stick to the facts and get this worked out, guys.
06-17-2008 | 10:49 PM
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no get real is that it was $15 to ship plus the 3% paypal fee on the $50 then i was charging you like $25-$30 for the rear sail retainer and i had told you i was giving you the HUB for FREE but NO you think someone is going to give away a $150 hub for free you should have known right there it was a stocker and not an aftermarket one and in the end what would it have been split down the middle of $25-$30.....................tada $15 each item and for this you blow up a thread lil OAR.
I dont expect this to get me anywhere and i dont want to continue violating the rules by arguing with this guy. i just want other buyers to be extra cautious when dealing with this guy. Sorry about the name calling, JasonD.
/end of thread
06-18-2008 | 09:21 AM
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i have plenty of POSITIVE FEEDBACK and it will only keep producing itself as time goes on....so deal with your loss you should not have ASSUMED that it was a keyed hub....
06-18-2008 | 11:21 AM
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Alright guys. I'd like to volunteer to arbitrate this situation for you.
Here is johnnyb's original thread:
https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...ighlight=keyed
He very clearly states that he wants a keyed hub. I've left the search highlighting in place just to show that he mentioned it once in each of his two posts in that thread.
I can't see the PM that jammer94 sent, but I'm assuming that he never said anything about the hub being keyed. Feel free to reply back and quote the PM.
Based on everything I can see here, johnnyb had every reason to assume that he was purchasing a keyed hub. That was one of the terms of the implied contract the two of you created.
jammer94 did not comply with the terms of that contract, and johnnyb did. This may have been an honest mistake, or it may have been deliberate, but that distinction is not relevant for the purposes of this arbitration. An implied contract was formed, and that contract either needs to be fulfilled or voided.
In order to fulfill the contract, jammer94 needs to acquire the correct part and send it to johnnyb, at no additional cost to johnnyb.
In order to void the contract, johnnyb returns the parts to jammer94, at jammer94's expense, and jammer94 returns johnnyb the money he received.
In both cases, jammer94 ends up out some money, and such is the price he pays for not complying with the terms of the contract in the first place.
Note that johnnyb gets to decide which resolution to go with.
Here is johnnyb's original thread:
https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...ighlight=keyed
He very clearly states that he wants a keyed hub. I've left the search highlighting in place just to show that he mentioned it once in each of his two posts in that thread.
I can't see the PM that jammer94 sent, but I'm assuming that he never said anything about the hub being keyed. Feel free to reply back and quote the PM.
Based on everything I can see here, johnnyb had every reason to assume that he was purchasing a keyed hub. That was one of the terms of the implied contract the two of you created.
jammer94 did not comply with the terms of that contract, and johnnyb did. This may have been an honest mistake, or it may have been deliberate, but that distinction is not relevant for the purposes of this arbitration. An implied contract was formed, and that contract either needs to be fulfilled or voided.
In order to fulfill the contract, jammer94 needs to acquire the correct part and send it to johnnyb, at no additional cost to johnnyb.
In order to void the contract, johnnyb returns the parts to jammer94, at jammer94's expense, and jammer94 returns johnnyb the money he received.
In both cases, jammer94 ends up out some money, and such is the price he pays for not complying with the terms of the contract in the first place.
Note that johnnyb gets to decide which resolution to go with.
06-18-2008 | 11:22 AM
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Jammer94, there are several threads on this forum indicating poor feedback in the past. Here are a couple:
https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...light=Jammer94
https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...light=Jammer94
The fact is that the only feedback rating worth bragging about is 100% positive. You can't make everyone happy, so what we really expect is 99.99% or better. Your record appears to be in the 90% positive range, which is not good enough. I've done some searching, and all you ever do on this forum is sell parts. You're clearly doing this to make money and not just to clear some random parts out of your garage, so good customer service needs to be your top priority.
One person out of ten is not happy with their transaction with you. Can you imagine if one out of every ten GM cars wasn't the right model? If ten people order V8 Camaros, and one of them ends up with a V6, does GM have the right to say "hey, not my problem, I didn't know you wanted a V8" and point to the other nine satisfied customers as evidence of how well they're doing?
No. That wouldn't be acceptable for GM, and it's not acceptable from you either. You need to improve upon it or give up. You're already building a reputation as a scammer. I don't know if it's deserved or not, but there's only one way to make it go away. You need to make every customer happy, even if it costs you some money once in a while. Go back and find everyone who has ever complained about a transaction with you. Apologize for your poor service in the past and ask how you can make it right with them. There is no other acceptable way to run a successful business. Keep doing what you're doing and you'll probably get banned.
Also, jammer94, since you're using this site to make money, it'd be nice if you at least purchased a Premium Membership ($12/year). If I were Jason or Chris, I'd take offense at the fact that you have not done so thus far. Selling parts here generally requires you to become a Supporting Vendor, but you just circumvent that by using private messages to do your sales. The least you could do is offer a token of support to the site that supports your living.
https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...light=Jammer94
https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...light=Jammer94
The fact is that the only feedback rating worth bragging about is 100% positive. You can't make everyone happy, so what we really expect is 99.99% or better. Your record appears to be in the 90% positive range, which is not good enough. I've done some searching, and all you ever do on this forum is sell parts. You're clearly doing this to make money and not just to clear some random parts out of your garage, so good customer service needs to be your top priority.
One person out of ten is not happy with their transaction with you. Can you imagine if one out of every ten GM cars wasn't the right model? If ten people order V8 Camaros, and one of them ends up with a V6, does GM have the right to say "hey, not my problem, I didn't know you wanted a V8" and point to the other nine satisfied customers as evidence of how well they're doing?
No. That wouldn't be acceptable for GM, and it's not acceptable from you either. You need to improve upon it or give up. You're already building a reputation as a scammer. I don't know if it's deserved or not, but there's only one way to make it go away. You need to make every customer happy, even if it costs you some money once in a while. Go back and find everyone who has ever complained about a transaction with you. Apologize for your poor service in the past and ask how you can make it right with them. There is no other acceptable way to run a successful business. Keep doing what you're doing and you'll probably get banned.
Also, jammer94, since you're using this site to make money, it'd be nice if you at least purchased a Premium Membership ($12/year). If I were Jason or Chris, I'd take offense at the fact that you have not done so thus far. Selling parts here generally requires you to become a Supporting Vendor, but you just circumvent that by using private messages to do your sales. The least you could do is offer a token of support to the site that supports your living.
06-18-2008 | 11:49 AM
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Jake,
Nice job stepping in to mediate this. I wish more people would do this to help other folks sort through the mess. I've included some more information from my observations.
Let's not forget to include this thread.
https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=529380
There are three more people he's "jammed" up.
I have to admit, he gets a ton of positive feedback. He also seems to receive more negative feedback than any other member. I personally will never do business w/ him as either a buyer or seller. It just seems too risky whether the part will be correct or in proper working order.
Nice job stepping in to mediate this. I wish more people would do this to help other folks sort through the mess. I've included some more information from my observations.
Jammer94, there are several threads on this forum indicating poor feedback in the past. Here are a couple:
https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...light=Jammer94
https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...light=Jammer94
The fact is that the only feedback rating worth bragging about is 100% positive. You can't make everyone happy, so what we really expect is 99.99% or better. Your record appears to be in the 90% positive range, which is not good enough. I've done some searching, and all you ever do on this forum is sell parts. You're clearly doing this to make money and not just to clear some random parts out of your garage, so good customer service needs to be your top priority.
One person out of ten is not happy with their transaction with you. Can you imagine if one out of every ten GM cars wasn't the right model? If ten people order V8 Camaros, and one of them ends up with a V6, does GM have the right to say "hey, not my problem, I didn't know you wanted a V8" and point to the other nine satisfied customers as evidence of how well they're doing?
No. That wouldn't be acceptable for GM, and it's not acceptable from you either. You need to improve upon it or give up. You're already building a reputation as a scammer. I don't know if it's deserved or not, but there's only one way to make it go away. You need to make every customer happy, even if it costs you some money once in a while. Go back and find everyone who has ever complained about a transaction with you. Apologize for your poor service in the past and ask how you can make it right with them. There is no other acceptable way to run a successful business. Keep doing what you're doing and you'll probably get banned.
Also, jammer94, since you're using this site to make money, it'd be nice if you at least purchased a Premium Membership ($12/year). If I were Jason or Chris, I'd take offense at the fact that you have not done so thus far. Selling parts here generally requires you to become a Supporting Vendor, but you just circumvent that by using private messages to do your sales. The least you could do is offer a token of support to the site that supports your living.
https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...light=Jammer94
https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...light=Jammer94
The fact is that the only feedback rating worth bragging about is 100% positive. You can't make everyone happy, so what we really expect is 99.99% or better. Your record appears to be in the 90% positive range, which is not good enough. I've done some searching, and all you ever do on this forum is sell parts. You're clearly doing this to make money and not just to clear some random parts out of your garage, so good customer service needs to be your top priority.
One person out of ten is not happy with their transaction with you. Can you imagine if one out of every ten GM cars wasn't the right model? If ten people order V8 Camaros, and one of them ends up with a V6, does GM have the right to say "hey, not my problem, I didn't know you wanted a V8" and point to the other nine satisfied customers as evidence of how well they're doing?
No. That wouldn't be acceptable for GM, and it's not acceptable from you either. You need to improve upon it or give up. You're already building a reputation as a scammer. I don't know if it's deserved or not, but there's only one way to make it go away. You need to make every customer happy, even if it costs you some money once in a while. Go back and find everyone who has ever complained about a transaction with you. Apologize for your poor service in the past and ask how you can make it right with them. There is no other acceptable way to run a successful business. Keep doing what you're doing and you'll probably get banned.
Also, jammer94, since you're using this site to make money, it'd be nice if you at least purchased a Premium Membership ($12/year). If I were Jason or Chris, I'd take offense at the fact that you have not done so thus far. Selling parts here generally requires you to become a Supporting Vendor, but you just circumvent that by using private messages to do your sales. The least you could do is offer a token of support to the site that supports your living.
https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=529380
There are three more people he's "jammed" up.
I have to admit, he gets a ton of positive feedback. He also seems to receive more negative feedback than any other member. I personally will never do business w/ him as either a buyer or seller. It just seems too risky whether the part will be correct or in proper working order.
06-18-2008 | 12:23 PM
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Jammer94, there are several threads on this forum indicating poor feedback in the past. Here are a couple:
https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...light=Jammer94
https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...light=Jammer94
The fact is that the only feedback rating worth bragging about is 100% positive. You can't make everyone happy, so what we really expect is 99.99% or better. Your record appears to be in the 90% positive range, which is not good enough. I've done some searching, and all you ever do on this forum is sell parts. You're clearly doing this to make money and not just to clear some random parts out of your garage, so good customer service needs to be your top priority.
One person out of ten is not happy with their transaction with you. Can you imagine if one out of every ten GM cars wasn't the right model? If ten people order V8 Camaros, and one of them ends up with a V6, does GM have the right to say "hey, not my problem, I didn't know you wanted a V8" and point to the other nine satisfied customers as evidence of how well they're doing?
No. That wouldn't be acceptable for GM, and it's not acceptable from you either. You need to improve upon it or give up. You're already building a reputation as a scammer. I don't know if it's deserved or not, but there's only one way to make it go away. You need to make every customer happy, even if it costs you some money once in a while. Go back and find everyone who has ever complained about a transaction with you. Apologize for your poor service in the past and ask how you can make it right with them. There is no other acceptable way to run a successful business. Keep doing what you're doing and you'll probably get banned.
Also, jammer94, since you're using this site to make money, it'd be nice if you at least purchased a Premium Membership ($12/year). If I were Jason or Chris, I'd take offense at the fact that you have not done so thus far. Selling parts here generally requires you to become a Supporting Vendor, but you just circumvent that by using private messages to do your sales. The least you could do is offer a token of support to the site that supports your living.
https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...light=Jammer94
https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...light=Jammer94
The fact is that the only feedback rating worth bragging about is 100% positive. You can't make everyone happy, so what we really expect is 99.99% or better. Your record appears to be in the 90% positive range, which is not good enough. I've done some searching, and all you ever do on this forum is sell parts. You're clearly doing this to make money and not just to clear some random parts out of your garage, so good customer service needs to be your top priority.
One person out of ten is not happy with their transaction with you. Can you imagine if one out of every ten GM cars wasn't the right model? If ten people order V8 Camaros, and one of them ends up with a V6, does GM have the right to say "hey, not my problem, I didn't know you wanted a V8" and point to the other nine satisfied customers as evidence of how well they're doing?
No. That wouldn't be acceptable for GM, and it's not acceptable from you either. You need to improve upon it or give up. You're already building a reputation as a scammer. I don't know if it's deserved or not, but there's only one way to make it go away. You need to make every customer happy, even if it costs you some money once in a while. Go back and find everyone who has ever complained about a transaction with you. Apologize for your poor service in the past and ask how you can make it right with them. There is no other acceptable way to run a successful business. Keep doing what you're doing and you'll probably get banned.
Also, jammer94, since you're using this site to make money, it'd be nice if you at least purchased a Premium Membership ($12/year). If I were Jason or Chris, I'd take offense at the fact that you have not done so thus far. Selling parts here generally requires you to become a Supporting Vendor, but you just circumvent that by using private messages to do your sales. The least you could do is offer a token of support to the site that supports your living.
06-18-2008 | 01:37 PM
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Johnny, do you still need the keyed hub? If so, do you still want to get one from Jammer94?
06-18-2008 | 01:45 PM
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06-18-2008 | 01:54 PM
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I also said that you have to choose which one of those things happens. Once you've chosen, it's Jammer's move.