In a nutshell my1994z28 sold me a EGR that he claimed work, to find out that it did not when i went to get it installed. Two pumps from an air pump showed instantly that it had a bad diaphragm. Upon contacting my 1994z28 he stated that he would refund me the money when he got paid. Pay day came around and no refund. After numerous times trying to contact him, he finally stated that he would no longer refund the money. I offered to ship it back to him if need be but wanted him to pay for return shipping. my1994z28 does not test his parts, and is not a man of his word. Below is more of the full story if you want to read it. Its sad that i have to spend some of my weekend typing this.

I Really did not want to do this, especially twice in one day. I am officially going to use the forum for tech help and info only, as I will no longer be buying parts due to shady sellers. I had a faulty egr in my Z28, and was hoping to save a few bucks buying one of the forums. I posted a wanted add for one and my1994z28 hit me up saying he had a fully functional egr. I knew i could get one for a reasonable price online, but really wanted to save as much money as possible as the repairs were really starting to add up. So upon getting the part from my1994z28, My mechanic pressure tested the EGR before the install. With two pumps from the pump, it was easy to see that the EGR was faulty as it had a bad diaphragm. I was now in a rough situation as i needed the car fixed to pass smog and it was running rough which we thought was partly due to the faluty egr. I did not want to reschedule with my mechanic and needed the job to get done, so i had to pay full price for the EGR from the shop. I contacted my1994z28, and after a few emails back in forth he agreed to refund me the money. I notified him that I had no problem shipping it back to him, but I would like him to pay the shipping fee. Clearly he did not test the EGR as two pumps would have shown that the EGR did not work properly. This is my1994z28's response

show details Apr 10 (7 days ago)
I am not going to argue about 10 or 20 dollars..I get paid friday,I will paypal you the 20.00 then.

Although I was disappointed that the part did not work, and that it ended up costing me more money then what I could have purchased it online. I was content with the refund as people do make mistakes. More important is what they do to make it right. So Friday comes along and I send my1994z28 a message reminding him to please issue the refund. He did not respond to my email or Forum message, even though it did show that he had logged in. Saturday rolls along and he finally messages me back telling me that he will now not refund me the money and accused me of being a scammer. Like I'm going to go through all this hassle and try to scam someone for a $20 part. C'mon man. So my1994z28 does not test his parts before selling them, and he is not a man of his word. Refunding the $20 was the least he can do, as he has wasted my time and money. Its not so much about the money, but about the principle and respect for the next man. Its a shame when a mans word means nothing. What else do we have at the end of the day? Attached is a picture of my girlfriend holding the part at the shop as my mechanic did not want his picture taken, and the box of the new EGR that was installed.

 

Sorry to hear about your bad luck.

 

Thank you, i do appreciate it. Not the end of the world, its just frustrating. Not so much about the money, but the principle. There are so many great people on here, and i have received so much helpful info from them. I do appreciate all the forum people who contribute to this site to make it what it is. Without the forums I would have given up on my LT1 along time ago. Thank You

 

Sold as is. That's fine as long as the part is what the person says it is. A faulty EGR is good for the trash can only. A crack cosmetic crack would not be a problem. But if it does not function properly, then that is a problem. This mechanic is a great friend of mine, he does work for me on the weekends. He showed me right in front of my eyes how and why the EGR did not function properly. But yes, I'm sure your average mechanic does not want to install any other parts then what his shop supplys, but this is not the case here.

 

I don't think he intended to sell me a part that did not work either, but the fact is that he did. Sold as is works fine, as long as you know what you are selling and accurately describe it. Its not ok to sell something that you say is fully functional, but sold as is, when the part does not function properly and you have not tested it. Ebay does not tolerate this, and I would hope that people on the forum would not tolerate this either. If you sell a small part, and do not know the functioning of the part, then you should state so. I would hope this would be common sense. Its not about the 10 or 20 dollars, its about the principle. Never waste another man's time, and always follow through with your word. Its that simple.

 

I offered you a 10.00 refund.keep the working egr valve,I know for a fact that it worked when it was shipped.If you dont want the 10.00,thats fine..I have sold and bought many parts over the past 2yrs that I have been on the site and never had any problems.Do us all a favor and explain how MR.MECHANIC tested the egr valve?

 

I do not understand what YOU can not understand about the part not working. I'm not going to accept half of a refund. You already agreed to issuing me a full refund for your faulty part but you are clearly not a man of your word. That is the least you can do as you have wasted my time and money.

show details Apr 10 (7 days ago)
I am not going to argue about 10 or 20 dollars..I get paid friday,I will paypal you the 20.00 then.

Do you remember emailing me that?

Since you do not know how to test an EGR I will explain it to you. The EGR was hooked up to a hand vacuum pump, and was pumped pressure into the EGR. The EGR's diaphragm was stuck closed and would not move. Meaning there is a leak in the diaphragm. Just pushing on the diaphragm itself you could hear the air leak. It was obvious as can be, but you clearly did not know how to test it. Be a man and follow through with your word. You are out of your mind if you think I'm going to waste this much time on trying to scam you out of a $20 part. You can see that I have left positive feedback for many other sellers with no problems. You can ask 1957camaro,dld9c1,ddr698, and Robbeck how their transactions with me worked out. Get Real.

 

The egr valve has to be on the intake with the motor running in order to test it.I would NOT let this guy work on my lawn mower.Go try testing the NEW egr valve off the car and see what it does.

 

That is not the only way to test an egr. Just by simply pushing on the diaphragm, you could hear the air leak. You clearly do not know what you are talking about, you have only proven my point. We did test the new EGR. Two pumps from the vacuum pump and the New EGR held the pressure, as your faulty one did not move at all.

 

I offered you a 10.00 refund today APRIL 20,2010 and you denied it.I know how to check an egr valve.

 

I tried to make it right with you on April 20th,you declined my offer.