Fastest 4L60E 10 Bolt car?
08-24-2004 | 09:16 PM
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Re: Fastest 4L60E 10 Bolt car?
I'm running 10.80's @ 128mph with 1.47 60ft times using a stock 4L60E trans.
(no shift kit) with a stock converter. I'm also running a stock 3.23 10 bolt rear end. I'm still running the stock cam also.
(no shift kit) with a stock converter. I'm also running a stock 3.23 10 bolt rear end. I'm still running the stock cam also.
08-25-2004 | 02:51 AM
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Re: Fastest 4L60E 10 Bolt car?
I just happened to be talking with my local race shop today about this very subject. First question he asked when I asked how long a 10 bolt would last me was, "Is it a 6-speed? Cuz if it is, it won't last long." He told me the 4L60s are easier on them anyway and a 10 bolt can run a 10 or 11 sec car easy. Btw, these guys build camaro drag cars so they aren't exactly retarded.
08-25-2004 | 06:48 AM
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Re: Fastest 4L60E 10 Bolt car?
Originally Posted by Tekprodave
I think some of the controversy here can be alleviated by realizing GM did make improvements over the years. The early 4L60E's had major issues. Some breaking on completely stock cars. My '95 vintage only lasted to 58K miles before needing a rebuild.
Originally Posted by Tekprodave
...snip...The six-speed guys might want to go easy and make sure to have the new rear end fund ready. 6-speed+new clutch and 6k RPM dumps on slicks=bye bye 10 bolt. 
08-25-2004 | 01:16 PM
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Re: Fastest 4L60E 10 Bolt car?
Originally Posted by Raptor1
Mine's a '94 - the first year they put the 4L60E in an F-Body. See my previous post. Maybe I was just lucky, or maybe it's a question of quality control (or lack thereof) and I happened to get a "good" one, or...??? But I'm aware of several other 94's-95's that have held up reasonably well too, so who knows?
Dave<--drag racin' fool who's very hard on trannies
08-26-2004 | 10:41 AM
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Re: Fastest 4L60E 10 Bolt car?
Well, I'm as fast you guys but I don't think this is too bad
The engine mod is CC pro mag 1.6 RR /out side of exhaust
Stock 4L60e no stall, stcok 10 bolt with 3:73 gears
150shot and i'm running 12.2 @ 113
What do you guys think?
The engine mod is CC pro mag 1.6 RR /out side of exhaust
Stock 4L60e no stall, stcok 10 bolt with 3:73 gears
150shot and i'm running 12.2 @ 113
What do you guys think?
08-27-2004 | 01:25 AM
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Re: Fastest 4L60E 10 Bolt car?
Originally Posted by Tekprodave
I think some of the controversy here can be alleviated by realizing GM did make improvements over the years. The early 4L60E's had major issues. Some breaking on completely stock cars. My '95 vintage only lasted to 58K miles before needing a rebuild. The newer trannies are quite different. The LS1's are so different they are called 4L65 so big difference there. It's good to hear that the stock parts are holding up though. I don't plan to change my rear until it breaks. The six-speed guys might want to go easy and make sure to have the new rear end fund ready. 6-speed+new clutch and 6k RPM dumps on slicks=bye bye 10 bolt.
08-27-2004 | 12:03 PM
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Re: Fastest 4L60E 10 Bolt car?
Originally Posted by OBDIICamaro
Actually 4l65es they didnt come in Fbodys they came in trucks and rvs.
08-27-2004 | 12:38 PM
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Re: Fastest 4L60E 10 Bolt car?
Originally Posted by Tekprodave
If that is true then I'm sorry for the misinformation. Can anyone else confirm this because I think it was a tranny shop rep that told me this.
08-27-2004 | 01:02 PM
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Re: Fastest 4L60E 10 Bolt car?
I might have made an incorrect assumption when the tranny guy was talking about this tranny (4L65E). But I thought they (GM) were using the 4L80E in the trucks. I know the LS1's are different and they require a different torque converter but I'm not sure exactly what the differences are.
08-27-2004 | 01:18 PM
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Re: Fastest 4L60E 10 Bolt car?
OK folks we have our answer and it looks like I was wrong. 
"The 4L65E transmission (M32 or L65) comes as standard equipment on Hummer H2, Cadillac Escalade, GMC Denali and 6 liter truck applications."
Here is a link for more useful tranny info:
http://www.transmissioncenter.net/ex...duty_parts.htm
I think where I went wrong was the guy said they were using the 4L65E in LS1 f-bodies and I assumed they came as standard equipment but they don't.
"The 4L65E transmission (M32 or L65) comes as standard equipment on Hummer H2, Cadillac Escalade, GMC Denali and 6 liter truck applications."
Here is a link for more useful tranny info:
http://www.transmissioncenter.net/ex...duty_parts.htm
I think where I went wrong was the guy said they were using the 4L65E in LS1 f-bodies and I assumed they came as standard equipment but they don't.
09-03-2004 | 11:00 PM
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Re: Fastest 4L60E 10 Bolt car?
i've had great luck so far with the stock 10 bolt and 3.73 series 2 strange ring/pinion.
i have cut numberous low 1.7's sixty foots without any problems...
now the 4l60e in my car was a peice of junk, it started slipping at 75K miles (when the car was bone stock) and lost 3rd and 4th gear when i put in heads/cam at 77K miles...trans went out 2nd time i went WOT...
i now have a cmotorsports tranny that has done very well, with a 2800 PI tc....
jesse
i have cut numberous low 1.7's sixty foots without any problems...
now the 4l60e in my car was a peice of junk, it started slipping at 75K miles (when the car was bone stock) and lost 3rd and 4th gear when i put in heads/cam at 77K miles...trans went out 2nd time i went WOT...
i now have a cmotorsports tranny that has done very well, with a 2800 PI tc....
jesse
09-03-2004 | 11:49 PM
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Re: Fastest 4L60E 10 Bolt car?
Originally Posted by Raptor1
My stock 10 bolt with 4.10's lasted 670 trips down the 1/4 mile before it lost 4 teeth out of the ring gear.
My stock 4L60e lasted longer than that with a 2800 stall converter. I'd have to look in my log book, but I believe it had over 750 runs on it before I had it rebuilt.
My stock 4L60e lasted longer than that with a 2800 stall converter. I'd have to look in my log book, but I believe it had over 750 runs on it before I had it rebuilt.
Originally Posted by Javier97Z28
Stock 4L60E w/a now 3200 stall and TransGo stage 2
Stock rear w/ strange 3.73's and T/A Girdle
low 1.6's all day long, over 200+ passes, low 12 sec car
Stock rear w/ strange 3.73's and T/A Girdle
low 1.6's all day long, over 200+ passes, low 12 sec car
I know we hear a lot of talk about "10-bolts can't handle the power" and "4L60E's are junk" but I think for the number of BAD cases we hear about, we don't hear about all the GOOD examples of stock cars that stay together
.I don't have "hundreds" of passes on my car (yet!
) but I've probably got ~30+, and the transmission is still stock, with adjusted shift points and shift firmness via the Hypertech
. I also daily-drive my car, and even MANUALLY SHIFT IT on occasion!! 
I'm about to roll ~70,000 kms (~43,000 miles) and it's still holding up thus far!
I'll let ya know when things start to fall apart though!
09-04-2004 | 02:42 PM
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Re: Fastest 4L60E 10 Bolt car?
i'm running 200 through my completely stock car. except for SLP airlid, K&N filter and QTP cutout. http://www.stealthram.com/2000pontiacformula.html best of 11.97 @ 118 before cutout. hit it at 2k in 1st gear.