BULLET PROOF 10 BOLT? You be the judge!
#16
I was looking today and jegs has a cover with the provisions for the adjusters already on it.
Cover W/Axle Brace
Axle Brace Kit
Would this work too??
Dude, that third gen looks awesome!!!
Cover W/Axle Brace
Axle Brace Kit
Would this work too??
Dude, that third gen looks awesome!!!
#20
One more illistration-
#22
i ran something very similar 5 years ago....everything worked fine but i kept breaking ring gear teeth...I sold the set up
btw. i was running the zexel torsen diff. i never had a problem the guy i sold it to is still running low 11's with it today
I also did another one for someone else in a 3rd gen....held up well but eventually broke a few ring gear teeth
I set the both up with around 8 thou backlash if I remember corectly that was a few years back
The 10 bolt isn't as bad as people make it out to be but its not like a 9"
btw. i was running the zexel torsen diff. i never had a problem the guy i sold it to is still running low 11's with it today
I also did another one for someone else in a 3rd gen....held up well but eventually broke a few ring gear teeth
I set the both up with around 8 thou backlash if I remember corectly that was a few years back
The 10 bolt isn't as bad as people make it out to be but its not like a 9"
#23
Just turn till stops and give it a quarter turn extra. The axles are $235.95 for the set from Moser.
#24
Did you weld the tubes in, too? I'm thinking about that, but worried about warping the whole thing. Benefit would depend on whether the deflection is more due to the axle tubes flexing under load, or if the connection to the housing moves, I think. Don't know answer.
#25
Welding the tubes is not needed if using the support system.
#26
Nice research. I contacted Richmond gear back in 1998 or 1999 and they said pretty much the same thing. However one of the forces you dont seem to account for is at the ring gear and pinion gear interface. Inertia tries to keep the ring gear stationary whereas the pinion is under tremendous torque from the engine. This causes the center section to stretch to enable the pinion gear to walk up the ring gear face. Like you have shown, the stud girdle helps maintain the integrity of the center section by increasing rigidity. Another place of concern is the crush washer underneath the pinion gear. A hand-lapped crush washer is important for maintaining gear lash. It's labor intensive during setup but can help maintain the gear lash under extreme conditions. That's where my 10-bolt failed in October of 2005: My crush washer deformed under severe wheelhop and then the axle tore apart the bearing spacer. Richmond gear engineers told me plainly that the stud girdle and the perimeter welding of the axle tubes would "essentially double" the life of the gears. Add these parts to the design and you've got the best recipe for a better 10-bolt I've seen yet.
Good going on the research.
Good going on the research.
#27
Is there book available that explains how to "rebuild" a 10-bolt? i am wanting to install 3.73 gears into my 10 bolt and do the support upgrade that is described in this post....but i need to know how to install those gears(and the crush washer thingy)...cuz i'm too much of an el cheapo to give someone else the money when i can do it myself....thanks!
#28
#29
Nice post.
One thing I noticed is that the axle tube braces are parallel to the axle on your setup. The aftermarket kits often use short tabs that weld to the axle tube for the outboard end of the rods. This makes for a triangular arrangement of the structural members. Generally speaking a triangle is far stiffer in structural applications than a rectangle. I'm thinking that the triangle configuration would be stiffer/stronger.
Regards, Michael
One thing I noticed is that the axle tube braces are parallel to the axle on your setup. The aftermarket kits often use short tabs that weld to the axle tube for the outboard end of the rods. This makes for a triangular arrangement of the structural members. Generally speaking a triangle is far stiffer in structural applications than a rectangle. I'm thinking that the triangle configuration would be stiffer/stronger.
Regards, Michael
Last edited by grammerman; 12-06-2006 at 08:15 AM.
#30
Also, I think it would be beneficial (if it's not too much to ask) if you posted a simple parts list of what you've used.
Is a 2.73 gear going to be stronger than a 3.73 gear?
I'm considering going back to the 2.73 for the turbo project.