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Old 01-15-2003 | 09:46 PM
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Originally posted by mongse_1
First, I would ditch the 2-core. You will have to fabricate a bracket to hold it into place like the one I did for a friend last weekend. It's a LOT easier w/ a 3-core.

I've heard bad things about the 50s. I'm not sure if they have a habit of locking up or if they just don't meet expectations. I've heard they're not the best choice from several people.

Also, I don't think Shalin Patel does tuning anymore...could be wrong, but I thought I read that somewhere this week.
What are you talking about gettin rid of the 2 core ... it is a very good piece .... i made up the brackets for claudes car and it was very easy check out the link
http://photos.msn.com/viewing/album.aspx?m7A!X9U3q6YzeOp!RYJqTeZ1QZyzFC2!4
Old 01-16-2003 | 08:57 AM
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Originally posted by mongse_1
First, I would ditch the 2-core. You will have to fabricate a bracket to hold it into place like the one I did for a friend last weekend. It's a LOT easier w/ a 3-core.

I've heard bad things about the 50s. I'm not sure if they have a habit of locking up or if they just don't meet expectations. I've heard they're not the best choice from several people.

Also, I don't think Shalin Patel does tuning anymore...could be wrong, but I thought I read that somewhere this week.
Thanks for the Adivce Broh...But I already have my 2 Core mounted in the Front Nose of my TA and it works better like that than having it under the car (cooler intake temps). If I can find a 3 Core for cheap, I would get it but for now, I will stick with what I currently have.

Actually, Shalin and Bryan Both Told me to use the MSD 50# Injectors, They said they had a lot of luck with tuning on those injectors.

I was more than likely going to go with Bryan anyways cuz he lived a lot closer to me than Shalin. Bryan is only 1 1/2 hour away and Shalin was 3 1/2 hours away.
Old 01-16-2003 | 11:11 AM
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The ATI 2-core is alright...not as good as the 3-core though and it takes more work to mount than a 3-core. The big problem is finding a 3-core that someone doesn't want half a G for.

Oh yeah, the album link didn't work.
Old 01-16-2003 | 01:24 PM
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Sorry guys i put up the wron link here it is again

http://photos.msn.com/viewing/album.aspx?m7A!X9U3q6YzeOp!RYJqTeZ1QZyzFC2!4KLCn99WqP0quN84j!SnQ k9iYJ2!2*!2K09kaLrWqNBbhldfhn7yxWLcrtvSJsinD*0nCfN 5z3I$



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Old 01-16-2003 | 04:19 PM
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Still no work. There's an ending URL tag in there too. I cut it out and it still didn't work. *shrug*
Old 01-21-2003 | 12:54 PM
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Here, let me give it a try
Try to copy and paste this:

http://photos.msn.com/viewing/album.aspx?m7A!X9U3q6YzeOp!RYJqTeZ1QZyzFC2!4KLCn99WqP0quN84j!SnQ k9iYJ2!2*!2K09kaLrWqNBbhldfhn7yxWLcrtvSJsinD*0nCfN 5z3I$


Sorry, Looks like its not working..Trying copying this to a Word Document and then paste it to your browser. It's seem that is the only way this link will work.

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Old 01-21-2003 | 06:06 PM
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Originally posted by Maldo
Hi Guys the wiring systems seems to be the ticket to get more voltage to the pump but, have any of you really seen the performance befit from doing this up grade when compared to running your own wiring. I understand the harness is top quality I am not questioning that But, I question the claims from racetronics that there wiring harness will increase the pump volume by 18% - 20% and 1.2 – 1.5 volts vs. a good wiring set up I can make up for about ¼ of the price. Is there something I am missing? To me the 110 price tag is not worth it….. When I can make up my own … unless racetronics is using magic wiring ?

Also does someone have a good picture of there racetronics wiring harness?

thanks,

Jim
You can modify your own system with basic parts but it is more a question of the reliability and ease of installation with the Racetronix harness.

Lets run through a quick comparison here:

The Racetronix harness plugs into the factory wiring using factory type connectors. vs. having to cut and splice into the factory wiring. Anyone who has had to buy a connector from a GM parts supplier knows that these parts do not come cheap. The LT1 fuel pump connector is proprietary (only used on the LT1 F-Body) which adds to its cost. The female connector is not available as an in-line version from GM so Racetronix has to custom-manufacture one.

The Racetronix harness uses a 40 amp mil. spec. weatherproof relay assembly which will not be affected by moisture or vibration. The relay is mounted under the car to alleviate clutter and extra wires running back and forth between the pump and the engine compartment. This relay assembly is valued in excess of $25.00 alone. (check with Casper’s and other vendors if you wish). A standard open style 30 amp relay can be bought for apx. $2.00 but I would not be caught dead using one on a mission critical vehicle system.

The Racetronix harness is covered in 300F rated nylon loom for added protection. This type of loom is more expensive than the 200F PVC type normally sold at automotive supply houses and stereo shops.

The Racetronix harness uses silver/Teflon and/or cross-linked automotive wire with a high strand count in all areas of the harness where it might be in close proximity to excessive heat, vapors or solvents/gas and vibration. Most automotive supply houses sell PVC jacketed wire with a low strand count which is not very resistant to any of the above adverse items.

The Racetronix harness includes a body ground upgrade kit. This kit comes with two solid brass battery nuts (with acc. taps) and a special 8 gauge grounding cable.

All connections on the Racetronix harness are crimped using proper Delphi crimpers and soldered for fail-proof connections. Heatshrink is used at all wire ends for added protection. This is why Racetronix harnesses are warranted for the life of your vehicle.

Other items included in the kit are silicon grease, 25 wire ties and a spare 20A fuse.

A Racetronix harness can easily be installed in half an hour with 3 basic hand tools.

If you are a D-I-Y sort of person then you can make your own ‘hotwire’ kit. When you factor in the parts, labor and time saved with the Racetronix harness it is a good deal. Most people find that having to get under their car with a soldering iron etc. to splice into the factory harness is not that appealing. On the odd chance that the Racetronix harness was to fail it can be simply unplugged so that the pump can be run off of the factory wiring until you can affect repairs.

Racetronix will be adding a URL to purchase the pump assemblies and harnesses separately.

Jack
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Old 01-21-2003 | 06:35 PM
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Post Delphi / MSD / Holley 50's

Originally posted by mongse_1
I've heard bad things about the 50s. I'm not sure if they have a habit of locking up or if they just don't meet expectations. I've heard they're not the best choice from several people.
The Delphi / MSD / Holley 50's are successfully being used in a wide array of applications. These injectors are a bit lazy opening compared to smaller injectors and low impedance types. Any tuner with experience using these injectors can easily tune around their idiosyncrasies. I do not recommend pushing these injectors above 70PSI as the magnetics will start to have trouble opening the injector especially if your vehicle voltage is low under WOT. (A volt blaster can help in this area) I do not recommend pushing these injectors beyond 85% duty cycle either. The LT1 PCM has trouble dealing with large injector calibrations at high RPM’s which compounds this problem. It is best to get the Acceleronics impedance converter and run a properly sized low impedance Siemens injector.

Jack
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Old 01-22-2003 | 09:02 AM
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Jack Thank you So much for Replying to this thread!I have decided to go with your wiring harness. After some more research I have only heard good things about it. You will get a n email from me as soon as the funds hit my paypal account.

I do hav e a few questions about your "DElphi/MSD/Holley" injectors (Please):
1. I am consufed are these injectors you sell made by Holley? or by MSD or by Delphi? (Why the Three names)
2. How much REAR Wheel HP can these injectors support?
3. Do you currenly have them in stock? (The web site states out of stock)


And Finally How much REAR Wheel HP should your wiring harness support with a a 340 model pump?
Old 01-22-2003 | 12:08 PM
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I bought the Racetronix kit for my 89 Formula. I have yet to install it but I was literally BLOWN away with the quality and attention to detail!!

If they offered a similar kit for my 98 TSi I would buy it from them in a heart beat. Unfortunitely they don't, but a universal kit is available. I will be ordering another kit from them as soon as the finds become available.

Jack is a great guy, I wish more companies were like his.
Old 01-22-2003 | 03:10 PM
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Originally posted by 95 Silver TA
Here, let me give it a try
Try to copy and paste this:

http://photos.msn.com/viewing/album.aspx?m7A!X9U3q6YzeOp!RYJqTeZ1QZyzFC2!4KLCn99WqP0quN84j!SnQ k9iYJ2!2*!2K09kaLrWqNBbhldfhn7yxWLcrtvSJsinD*0nCfN 5z3I$

Sorry, Looks like its not working..Trying copying this to a Word Document and then paste it to your browser. It's seem that is the only way this link will work.
If you want, send the pics to me. I can host them on my site.
Old 01-22-2003 | 03:46 PM
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mongse_1:

Sent You mail..

Thanks,
Claude
Old 01-22-2003 | 11:26 PM
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Got it, I'll try to have them up by this weekend.
Old 01-23-2003 | 01:19 AM
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Racetronix,

how much for a dual in tank pump set up? I supply the sending unit? I've probably asked before, but I forgot how much you are asking. What kind of deal can you make me for both pump and 42# injectors?

Thanks,

Eric B
Old 01-23-2003 | 05:39 AM
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Originally posted by Maldo
What are you talking about gettin rid of the 2 core ... it is a very good piece .... i made up the brackets for claudes car and it was very easy check out the link
http://photos.msn.com/viewing/album.aspx?m7A!X9U3q6YzeOp!RYJqTeZ1QZyzFC2!4
MSN photolinks are temporary "floating" URLS they change them constantly to reduce "hosting"


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