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Old 12-09-2005 | 07:45 AM
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Re: lets build something to kill the z06, viper, shelby, & most anything else!

Originally Posted by blackztpi
well, if you have an ls1....a cam and a 6 psi blower will do more than enough. pretty easy to answer that one. now if you want to build something that will be a real monster, than thats the thread i want to read about.
A new ZO6 will eat up an LS1 at 6psi...it may handle some other cars ok like stock 03 cobras, but new ZO6's/vipers/worked 03+ cobras will handle 6psi LS1.

If you have a built motor and 10psi of boost, then that should be a good start...stock ported heads or otherwise.

My combo is still in the works:

383ci LT1
AFR210's
Homemade T76 turbo kit
Old 12-09-2005 | 08:13 AM
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Re: lets build something to kill the z06, viper, shelby, & most anything else!

94z (its alive)
383,D1,6spd(not for long),AFR 190cc ported heads
Joe O Top secret cam
Accel Gen7+ DFI
1/8th 6.9@109.1mph with a stock 10 bolt 1.8 60ft

....and that's with an M6, scary
Old 12-09-2005 | 08:39 AM
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Re: lets build something to kill the z06, viper, shelby, & most anything else!

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94z (its alive)
383,D1,6spd(not for long),AFR 190cc ported heads
Joe O Top secret cam
Accel Gen7+ DFI
1/8th 6.9@109.1mph with a stock 10 bolt 1.8 60ft

....and that's with an M6, scary
Did Lloyd port the AFR's?
Old 12-09-2005 | 05:26 PM
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Re: lets build something to kill the z06, viper, shelby, & most anything else!

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Did Lloyd port the AFR's?
no A local machine shop did (advanced valve) nothing fancy on afrs they flowed 278@500
New setup is in the works as we speak YSI and Chris Sykoras Custom Bracket, methanol injection(intercooler substitute) should see about 28#s
Hopfully i wont sent these afrs through the hood come march
Old 12-10-2005 | 02:02 PM
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Re: lets build something to kill the z06, viper, shelby, & most anything else!

Originally Posted by canbaufo
94z (its alive)
383,D1,6spd(not for long),AFR 190cc ported heads
Joe O Top secret cam
Accel Gen7+ DFI
1/8th 6.9@109.1mph with a stock 10 bolt 1.8 60ft

....and that's with an M6, scary
How much psi ?
Old 12-10-2005 | 04:30 PM
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Re: lets build something to kill the z06, viper, shelby, & most anything else!

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How much psi ?
17#s
Old 12-10-2005 | 05:18 PM
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Re: lets build something to kill the z06, viper, shelby, & most anything else!

Originally Posted by RealQuick
A new ZO6 will eat up an LS1 at 6psi...it may handle some other cars ok like stock 03 cobras, but new ZO6's/vipers/worked 03+ cobras will handle 6psi LS1.

If you have a built motor and 10psi of boost, then that should be a good start...stock ported heads or otherwise.

My combo is still in the works:

383ci LT1
AFR210's
Homemade T76 turbo kit
I would think it would depend largely on the blower, and on the cam selected.
Old 12-10-2005 | 07:43 PM
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Re: lets build something to kill the z06, viper, shelby, & most anything else!

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17#s
Normal times then Nice setup!
Old 12-10-2005 | 07:47 PM
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Re: lets build something to kill the z06, viper, shelby, & most anything else!

Originally Posted by RealQuick
A new ZO6 will eat up an LS1 at 6psi...it may handle some other cars ok like stock 03 cobras, but new ZO6's/vipers/worked 03+ cobras will handle 6psi LS1.

If you have a built motor and 10psi of boost, then that should be a good start...stock ported heads or otherwise.

My combo is still in the works:

383ci LT1
AFR210's
Homemade T76 turbo kit
My combo is the same as yours. The only difference I choosed 240/246 cam without blower (because of budget issue). I bought T56 Viper Tranny (swapping from A4) with complete highest quiality forged long block with 210cc AFRs. And there is no more money left for D1SC ATI Charger In close future I will definitely get it.
For now can I eat new Z06 ? No? MAybe with 100shot wet juice?
Old 12-11-2005 | 09:23 AM
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Re: lets build something to kill the z06, viper, shelby, & most anything else!

I don't know if anyone mentioned this yet or not, the new Z06 is very light compared to our F-bodies. It's a little over 3000 pounds. We need a lot more than 500 horsepower to keep up with it due to the weight issue. At least 600 horse would do it? We also need better traction with the increased horsepower.

I raced a nitroused 'vette a few years back and got my *** kicked just because of no traction, just spun the tires, it was on a cold day too.
Old 12-11-2005 | 02:18 PM
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Re: lets build something to kill the z06, viper, shelby, & most anything else!

what about these prices?

$2895 for an internally balanced rotating assembly that consists of
lunati sledgehammer 3.75 crank
lunati pro-mod 5.7 rods
off the shelf JE blower pistons (31cc) with pins & file fit rings
clevite 2 bearings
plus $500 for machine work & $750 for final assembly

or $3515 for an internally balanced rotating assembly that consists of
callies dragonslayer 3.875 crank
lunati pro-mod rods 5.85
custom JE pistons with pins & file fit rings
clevite 2 bearings
plus $500 for machine work & $750 for final assembly

are these bad, decent, or good prices?
Old 12-12-2005 | 09:02 PM
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Re: lets build something to kill the z06, viper, shelby, & most anything else!

Originally Posted by RussStang
I would think it would depend largely on the blower, and on the cam selected.
It will take ~490-500rwhp for an fbody to run with a 450rwhp ZO6...based on that thinking, I would think 6psi isnt going to get an LS1 that much power...more like 430-450rwhp...
Old 12-12-2005 | 09:04 PM
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Re: lets build something to kill the z06, viper, shelby, & most anything else!

Originally Posted by JustNO
My combo is the same as yours. The only difference I choosed 240/246 cam without blower (because of budget issue). I bought T56 Viper Tranny (swapping from A4) with complete highest quiality forged long block with 210cc AFRs. And there is no more money left for D1SC ATI Charger In close future I will definitely get it.
For now can I eat new Z06 ? No? MAybe with 100shot wet juice?
100 shot would give you the edge...
Old 12-12-2005 | 09:29 PM
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Re: lets build something to kill the z06, viper, shelby, & most anything else!

Originally Posted by axehead
what about these prices?

$2895 for an internally balanced rotating assembly that consists of
lunati sledgehammer 3.75 crank
lunati pro-mod 5.7 rods
off the shelf JE blower pistons (31cc) with pins & file fit rings
clevite 2 bearings
plus $500 for machine work & $750 for final assembly

or $3515 for an internally balanced rotating assembly that consists of
callies dragonslayer 3.875 crank
lunati pro-mod rods 5.85
custom JE pistons with pins & file fit rings
clevite 2 bearings
plus $500 for machine work & $750 for final assembly

are these bad, decent, or good prices?
They are good prices, assuming the work is of good quality. The stuff behind door #1 is a better deal.

Rich
Old 12-12-2005 | 11:05 PM
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Re: lets build something to kill the z06, viper, shelby, & most anything else!

Originally Posted by RealQuick
It will take ~490-500rwhp for an fbody to run with a 450rwhp ZO6...based on that thinking, I would think 6psi isnt going to get an LS1 that much power...more like 430-450rwhp...
He did say cam and blower, so I was thinking a good blower cam would help the hp numbers out. I would think that the specific blower model would also come into play. The new z06 weighs in at around 3130lbs. The usually 4th gen weighs it at around 3400lbs. I would think that you could at least run with one with a 30whp difference.

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