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Old 11-30-2005 | 01:26 PM
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Monoblade guys

I just put a monoblade on my car and I'm having a hard time getting it to return back to closed. It will hang open and let the car over rev.

It doesn't do this off the car, nor does it do it with the blower belt off. It does do it with the bypass valve completely off the car and venting to atm.

I'm thinking that it just can overcome that huge pressure differential between what the blower is putting out and the 20 inches of vaccum this cam makes.


Whats a fix for this? I'm thinking about drilling a hole in the blades as there is nothing now!
Old 11-30-2005 | 03:00 PM
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so even if the bypass is open and the pressure is venting, it TB is still open a little?
Old 11-30-2005 | 03:31 PM
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yes it will still hang.. The only time it will not hang is if I take the intake plumbing completely off.

Even with the bypass valve completely off the car and just venting to ATM the blower puts out quite a bit of air.

I didn't mention it but I even put a aux spring onthe throttle bracket.. that didn't help at all.
Old 11-30-2005 | 05:05 PM
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Does it still do it with the inlet tubing connected & the blower belt off? This will prove it is pressure related & not due to a bind placed on it by the tubing.
Old 11-30-2005 | 06:51 PM
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I am having the same problem. I am going to drill a 1/8" hole in the throttle cam where the cable attaches and the plastic piece behind it and put in a 1/8" pin in to hold the two pieces together. If you do a search for monoblade in the forced induction forum there is a post about it from 2 years ago.
Old 11-30-2005 | 07:37 PM
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Have you tried contacting AS&M about it?? That's a pretty expensive piece; they should be more than happy to help you out.
Old 11-30-2005 | 10:15 PM
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Re: Monoblade guys

Originally Posted by Joe Brodman
Have you tried contacting AS&M about it?? That's a pretty expensive piece; they should be more than happy to help you out.

yeah, they want me to send it back.. but I dont' think its really there problem.. I think the larger surface area makes it impossible for a spring to control with so much pressure on one side and boost on the other.
Old 11-30-2005 | 10:31 PM
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Originally Posted by ru2slo_99
I am having the same problem. I am going to drill a 1/8" hole in the throttle cam where the cable attaches and the plastic piece behind it and put in a 1/8" pin in to hold the two pieces together. If you do a search for monoblade in the forced induction forum there is a post about it from 2 years ago.
I saw that also, but i'm not sure if thats really my problem or not.. The throttle linkage and the shaft seem pretty damn solid to me.. It just doens't have enough spring to close itsself once air is slipping past it.
Old 12-01-2005 | 12:00 AM
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Maybe a higher flowing bypass valve is in order?
Old 12-01-2005 | 10:56 AM
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Maybe an old carb spring would be able to pull it closed?
Old 12-01-2005 | 02:32 PM
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I have not lokked at mine in about a year, but I think the cam that the TB cable is on is not directly connected to the shaft. This is why the 1/8" pin fixes this situation. I may be wrong, but I am going to do this in about a week when I get home from school. I think I read on here 3-4 years ago about someone trying a larger spring and it did not work for the reason above. I will reply with my results of whatever I do to fix it. This problem will scare the mess out of you and is very dangerous.
Old 12-01-2005 | 03:11 PM
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Yeah, the throttle cable on mine has a machined flat.. so it moves directly with the shaft.. absoulutley no room for play whatsoever.

I re-wound my spring as hard as I could and its a bit better but still has a tendancy to hang open every once in a while.

I'm going to put a stronger return spring on it.. Why the hell didn't they make this thing with a bigger spring or with the plate offcenter on the shaft so vaccum would close it
Old 12-02-2005 | 12:15 AM
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Re: Monoblade guys

Originally Posted by Alvin@pcmforless.com

Whats a fix for this? I'm thinking about drilling a hole in the blades as there is nothing now!


Wouldn't that cause it to idle high too, or can you tune around it?
Old 12-02-2005 | 12:38 AM
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Originally Posted by Alvin@pcmforless.com
Why the hell didn't they make this thing with the plate offcenter on the shaft so vaccum would close it
That's the problem.
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