New to the FI area, and had a few questions
10-03-2008 | 03:23 PM
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New to the FI area, and had a few questions
Ok as the sig says, i have a 1994 camaro z28 lt1, stock engine,170000 on the meter. i was wondering. a friend of mine has a T3/04B Garret Turbo hes selling for $75. brand new. The camaro is down right now and figured i might as well start doing some stuff to it. so
#1) Will this turbo give me a decent gain... only looking to hit 350-400 hp, with a complete intercooled set-up?
#2) what is the most necessary internal parts that would need to be replaced/upgraded to use this turbo, any turbo in fact.
#3) For those of you who have done this, where do you place your BOV?
Well i appreciate any help i can get on this. Thanks again.
$Glen$
#1) Will this turbo give me a decent gain... only looking to hit 350-400 hp, with a complete intercooled set-up?
#2) what is the most necessary internal parts that would need to be replaced/upgraded to use this turbo, any turbo in fact.
#3) For those of you who have done this, where do you place your BOV?
Well i appreciate any help i can get on this. Thanks again.
$Glen$
10-03-2008 | 03:27 PM
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10-03-2008 | 03:29 PM
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10-03-2008 | 04:48 PM
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ive read that numerous times... no where did i see an answer to question #1... im not a noob on here so i research before i post. I noticed where to place the bov and that most internals need to be changed, but then again tha tis a general rule... not always.... as is why i asked about runnign this particular turbo, not a turbo in general.
Thanks to anyone who actually responds to my questions without links.
Thanks to anyone who actually responds to my questions without links.
10-03-2008 | 06:06 PM
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#1) Can't find a map for that turbo on google. You will need 50-60lbs/min out of the turbo to hit 400 at the wheels. By the time you build a kit for that $75 turbo, you might as well consider ported heads and cam to hit your 350-400 goal. Lots of 350-400hp LT1's out there with a $250 cam, $800 heads, and tuning of your choice. You will have more into the turbo kit, more tuning headaches, more risk of broken pistons. It will not be cost effective to run to turbocharger for 350hp. Plus, do you trust a $75 turbo with your motor?
#2) Per the link(s) provided. You will want to run a forged piston. It is possible to run 6#'s on a stock piston, however, only if you keep the tune safe ie) lots of fuel and little timing. At 170K miles you would need to bore the cylinders, buy ~$500 pistons, rod/main bolts, bearings, gaskets....best case! Now you have way too much into that 350hp setup.
#3) A BOV is placed on the pressure side of the compressor outlet, before the MAF (if you chose to run a MAF). The idea here is to vent any air before the MAF reads it and adjusts fuel for that air.
You need to add up cost for a 350-400hp setup with heads/cam and with a turbo. Then you need to add up pros and cons of each setup and make a decision that makes you happy
Start with a fresh sheet of paper and a calculator and it will become clear after you put your research in.
Let us know what you think,
Scott.
#2) Per the link(s) provided. You will want to run a forged piston. It is possible to run 6#'s on a stock piston, however, only if you keep the tune safe ie) lots of fuel and little timing. At 170K miles you would need to bore the cylinders, buy ~$500 pistons, rod/main bolts, bearings, gaskets....best case! Now you have way too much into that 350hp setup.
#3) A BOV is placed on the pressure side of the compressor outlet, before the MAF (if you chose to run a MAF). The idea here is to vent any air before the MAF reads it and adjusts fuel for that air.
You need to add up cost for a 350-400hp setup with heads/cam and with a turbo. Then you need to add up pros and cons of each setup and make a decision that makes you happy
Start with a fresh sheet of paper and a calculator and it will become clear after you put your research in. Let us know what you think,
Scott.
10-03-2008 | 07:22 PM
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#1) Can't find a map for that turbo on google. You will need 50-60lbs/min out of the turbo to hit 400 at the wheels. By the time you build a kit for that $75 turbo, you might as well consider ported heads and cam to hit your 350-400 goal. Lots of 350-400hp LT1's out there with a $250 cam, $800 heads, and tuning of your choice. You will have more into the turbo kit, more tuning headaches, more risk of broken pistons. It will not be cost effective to run to turbocharger for 350hp. Plus, do you trust a $75 turbo with your motor?
#2) Per the link(s) provided. You will want to run a forged piston. It is possible to run 6#'s on a stock piston, however, only if you keep the tune safe ie) lots of fuel and little timing. At 170K miles you would need to bore the cylinders, buy ~$500 pistons, rod/main bolts, bearings, gaskets....best case! Now you have way too much into that 350hp setup.
#3) A BOV is placed on the pressure side of the compressor outlet, before the MAF (if you chose to run a MAF). The idea here is to vent any air before the MAF reads it and adjusts fuel for that air.
You need to add up cost for a 350-400hp setup with heads/cam and with a turbo. Then you need to add up pros and cons of each setup and make a decision that makes you happy Start with a fresh sheet of paper and a calculator and it will become clear after you put your research in.
Let us know what you think,
Scott.
#2) Per the link(s) provided. You will want to run a forged piston. It is possible to run 6#'s on a stock piston, however, only if you keep the tune safe ie) lots of fuel and little timing. At 170K miles you would need to bore the cylinders, buy ~$500 pistons, rod/main bolts, bearings, gaskets....best case! Now you have way too much into that 350hp setup.
#3) A BOV is placed on the pressure side of the compressor outlet, before the MAF (if you chose to run a MAF). The idea here is to vent any air before the MAF reads it and adjusts fuel for that air.
You need to add up cost for a 350-400hp setup with heads/cam and with a turbo. Then you need to add up pros and cons of each setup and make a decision that makes you happy
Start with a fresh sheet of paper and a calculator and it will become clear after you put your research in. Let us know what you think,
Scott.
The land of forced induction is fun, but its also very addictive, especially with a turbo where you can easily "turn up" the boost. If you're only looking for 400 rwhp now, its almost certain you'll be looking for more soon after. I don't think anyone is trying to discourage you from considering going the forced induction route, just go about it the smartest way possible and build the best F.I. motor you can afford and then bolt on the best form of forced induction you can afford. A stock 170K motor will just not hold up to much boost, but you might be suprised what a heads and cam swap would do for you...even a 100hp shot of N2O if the stock motor was well maintained.
10-04-2008 | 01:21 PM
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well i do have an lt1 block in my garage. thats already been bored .30 so i can just build the internals into that and take tall the intake manifold and other stuff that doesnt have to be replaced from the old motor and put it on the new one... then i should have the supporting mods for it. its a good turbo. but he never used it thats why it $75 and it my friend so hes cutting me a deal... but its a 60-trim... i cant remember the other specs he told me but i can find them out today if that will help. any other opinions with this additional info
Couple more questions to go along with this thread.
#1) Where is a good place to get parts for a 383 build? any good kits out there?
#2) if i was wanting to do a new cam with this turbo build what cam would you guys say i should use?
#3) How much hp do you all think id mbe making on a 383 forged motor running on like 5-7#s of boost?
Couple more questions to go along with this thread.
#1) Where is a good place to get parts for a 383 build? any good kits out there?
#2) if i was wanting to do a new cam with this turbo build what cam would you guys say i should use?
#3) How much hp do you all think id mbe making on a 383 forged motor running on like 5-7#s of boost?
Last edited by glenb1991; 10-04-2008 at 01:47 PM.
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