I know there is a lot of crap out there, but i wouldn't go as far as to question everyone's credibility. I try to use what seems to be proven credible sources. Much of what i read here seems to hold true by seeing it at the track too. And like others, i too have a hard time seeing a 3500lb car trapping 163 with 750rwhp... most mustangs and f-bodies i see near that range are in the high 130s to low 140s at darlington, with a few in more track-dedicated (gutted) cars touching the high 140s. And those guys don't play around neither, the cars are set up right and launch hard on slicks. That's just been my experience anyway.

 

Well I agree with that. . .

What I said was:

 

You're going by what you read about on the internet, I'm going by what I saw in person both at the dyno and the track time and time again.

My pop's car makes low 400 to the tire and goes 10.9's at around 125 (not even a great 60 ft) and that's a full-weight daily driver. Then I see 1000rwhp cars going the same et go figure. Just go to a local nsca, pro, whatever race and ask people what kinda power they are making and what they run.

 

Maybe we should quit while we are ahead then...lol

 

I don't doubt that at all. My old '89 Firbird ran 11.0 at 124 with 415 rwhp at 3500 lb.

To add fuel to this fire. . . there's a local guy with a N/A big block, high compression, huge solid cam in a tube chassis, fiberglass body Nova, running 9.3's at 140 mph. He went to a dyno shoot-out, saying he was going to show them late-model boys what a real car can do. After several NA streetable LS1's and Lightnigs put down 420+ rwhp, he layed down a whopping 380 rwhp. I guess he never factored in that his car only weighs 2200 lb.

 

In case you didn't see it, i spend plenty of time at DARLINGTON in SOUTH CAROLINA, a WELL KNOWN dragstrip. I KNOW MANY people out there and some just happen to have cars and results you don't believe in. Like you, i see what happens on the streets, strips, and dynos. Why be so cynical?

The only reason i stated the other people is so you can at least see some of it by simply searching. Whether you believe it or not is obviously your choice. As for accusing sleeperz about his "claims", you can plainly see he's roasting the tires half way down the track and has to let off the gas numerous times AND STILL traps 143. Not hard to figure out what's going on there.

 

Here's one for ya...I almost bought a pump gas n/a big block for my car (steve schmidt off the shelf 750hp 523 pump gas hyd roller). He guaranteed it would put my car in mid 9 range at 3400 lbs. That's 750 to the crank...like high 500's to the tire through the th400.

But I know n/a power is more valuable than any power-adder power...just like a nitrous car making 750rwhp will go faster than a turbo car making 750rwhp...and a 750rwhp n/a car would kill them both. Why? I have some theories and have heard some theories but one thing I do know is I've never seen that not hold true.

 

I've spun my tires through the 1/8th and still mph'd about the same...

 

Well then, good for you. You watch the vids? Spinning the tires in a 1000rwhp turbocharged car is a lot different then spinning them with other power adders. The power delivery just isn't the same and it surely isn't proportional to where your right foot is neither (it can be downright unpredictable since boost builds faster as it makes more boost... almost exponentially). The more you have to let out of the gas, the worse it affects your times due to lag.

 

Then either:

1) don't complain that the car won't run the numbers because it's being limited by the transmission that the owner is choosing to use.

Or

2) put a damn tranny in the car so you can see what it really has. Otherwise it just looks like the slowest 1000rwhp car known to man.

I make a few comments that aren't kissing the car owner's *** and everyone gets their panties in a bunch. Is this ls1tech? If anyone wants to argue further, PM me cuz I'm done with this little playground.

 

For the record, i'm not making excuses, i'm not COMPLAINING, and i'm not kissing his *** neither. Re-read this thread if you have to, i'm being as neutral as i can be. Just calling it as I see it and what his car runs isn't a personal thing to me. You came in here busting his chops about what his car has and hasn't done, and we all know there are WAY TOO MANY factors to consider just by reading a message board. sleeperz28 and engineermike are members who have been regarded as respectable through the years on this board and barging in here with the kind of attitude you had invites conflict. [edit]- how hard would it have been to simply ask for timeslips, dyno sheets, and more videos?

I'm done with this "playground" too. Peace

 

JAJA.. you really are HOMER!

When i had 607rwhp.... i did 13.0@118mph.... how do you figure that i raced an rx7 Turbo that did 10.4@133 and i blew past him?

guess that 1/4 miles are not everything... In a 1000rwhp car... that is a very SHORT length to show what the car can do... I bet you that if he did a 1mile run he could trap around 220mph.... Some people have a mustard grain vision.

 

lol the 'I beat him and he went xx so i went faster than xx is always a treat...until you run the number, it's still a 13.0 car...I ran my car last night...it went 11.70...at 70 mph...tons of problems...does that mean I COULD or SHOULD have went faster? Probably, but until it does, it's a high 11-second ride...

And my car makes WAY less than 1000 hp but I'd line up next to that car anyday and twice on sunday with 2/3 the hp...so whether it's making power and can't put it down, or it's just a dynoqueen, or it's just not making the power...none of that matters it's whether or not it runs a number.

Looks like a nice car and hopefully he works the bugs out and shows us what it can really do...got nothing against the guy.