Originally Posted by f-body fan

Actually, Injuneer, I REALLY like American cars -- I've had at least seventeen of them, but they were all built in the 1960s. And I can honestly say that not one of them ever needed a rear dif. or oil seal or distributor before 100,000 miles... although one did need a new engine mount.

And I've been telling people how great F-bodies are for years ---- but based on one drive of a brand new LT-1 F-body convertible in 1994 when they were introduced, and on the tons of glowing reviews I read for years after, and on the fact that they were built by hard-working Canadians, and on the popularity of 9C-1 Caprices in Police Depts. On paper, 150mph and 25 mpg was amazing. But as a thinking person, after reading the massive number of what I'd call major-part failures on this forum, and then driving that 90,000-mile Formula, I'm left thinking that maybe I should have been reading Consumer Reports instead of Car & Driver to get the real story...

I've done nothing but encourage people to buy Camaros and Firebirds despite knowing a number of owners of other GM cars that have had major engine damage due to oil pump failures at less than 10,000 miles, while Toyotas can have the living bejesus driven out of them and hit an easy 200,000 miles still passing smog and containing their oil.

So I guess your partially right.... I was naive and loved the IDEA of owning an F-body... but I have to be honest --- as an American, I'm actually kind of sad...