With mods in sig.(basically Hotcam, shorties, CAI, and exhaust) I consistently put 2 cars an a 2002 Z-28 M6 from 40 Mph to 100 Mph. We raced about five times from varying speeds, and I beat him good every time. The last time we tried it from a dead stop. He left on the second honk, getting a 1.5 car head start. At the top of third I caught him and sailed past him. Definately some fun races, but there was no way he was going to pull on me. I don't even have full bolt-ons either(no MAF, TB, airfoil, etc....).

 

ok i cant drive.... i ran 13.2s all nite long at the track with it with a 1.8 60 foot time....just admit it takes alot to beat an LS1

MeanGreen97Z your full of $hit

 

Dont believe it? Go to LS1.com and ask some of the fellas there about MeanGreen. It didnt get the nickname for no reason.

 

OK, and what other mods did you have? Otherwise, you ran with the sorriest bunch of LS1's ever built and raced. Like I said earlier, the fastest STOCK LT1 I've seen personally was my buddy's '97 Z28 M6, which ran 13.75 @ 100 mph on the same day I ran 13.02 @ 107. We were both running good and getting good traction. Granted, I've got a lid and 4.10 gears, but still, engine wise I'm stock, and my car only dyno'd 289 rwhp, so there are much stronger LS1's than mine. Even on the highway, I pull on my friend's car like he's standing still.....doesn't matter how/where we start.

 

I've ran two ls1's; 99 TA and 98 TA both autos. I beat both by two car lengths with my current mods. It doesnt take a cam to beat an ls1 no matter what anyone says unless all the ls1's around here are POS's

 

ran a 2001 ls1 with catback and intake from 60 mph roll - kept with him to 100 then he pulled a couple carlengths by 140-

97 lt1 with catback- shorty headers - intake - progamming- but... car was taken from a junkyard and rebuilt- havent torn into the engine yet (building this summer) but guy i got it off of said it used to be dragged a lot and had some serious mods on it before he tore her down - so he assumed some mild engine work had been done


soo... ya i ran with the ls1 with little mods- but there is some engine work done i dont know about and he did end up pulling a good 2 car lengths after 100

 

Ls1's are faster than Lt1's but it doesn't take a heavily modded car or a cam to take a stock Ls1, unless a full exhaust, intake, and street tires are considered to be big modifications.

 

I dont know what your talkin about ...Ive owned both a 96 and a 97 and they on average run no better then any previous year( dont let the extra 10hp go to your head cause its only on paper)....and w/ your mods im not sure if your beating LS1's or bad drivers. I love the LT1 just as much as the next guy but your spouting nonsence.

 

You're sippin that wack juice... it's not the 10hp on paper that I am talking about. When I got my 97 Z most of the other LT1s running around had 100+k miles on them. Me on the other hand.... I had less than 20k. Car pulled hard and the transmission was shifting like a powerglide. I had a little work done from Mark Shaner over at S2 performance to make the airfoil fit in the TB better and smooth it out. Borla cat back was wide open. Moroso CAI and the MAF ends just added to the cake. This car dyno'd 289rwhp on a little generous dyno. Ran a best of 13.1 @ 104 at Ennis... this run was in 2001 against a 2000 TA with a lid and a hooker catback. He ran a 13.9 @ 103. There are tough LS1s out there. No doubt some have put out nice numbers, but dont automatically think that because its an LS1 its going to make 320rwhp. It just dont fly like that. There are PLENTY of sub 290rwhp LS1s out there. When I say plenty.. i mean alot. I know the dyno tricks at the local shops to boost peoples confidence and tell them they have over 300 at the rubber. Dont believe the hype. LS1 is the best SBC ever made but its not God's gift to Chevrolet. Look at the Cadillac 500 for example....

 

Hey, mine dyno'd 289 too!! Difference being, that's through full exhaust, not a wide-open Borla. And that '01 T/A running 13.9 @ 103.....the time doesn't match the speed.....bad driver / bad setup. Your 13.1 @ 104 is quite respectable (but don't consider it an LS1 killer.....just that it runs right in with average LS1's, so yeah, I guess you will beat a few of the slower ones).

 

Thats totally what I'm getting at. Thank you for being the first one in the post to see where I am coming from. Ya I never said I was waxing every stock LS1 out there. The guy in the TA was not really spinning. I think his car was just not strong on the low end. When he hit the higher rpms that car started coming up on me but that was at the end of the track.

REMEMBER THE QUESTION IN THIS POST!!! What will it take for an LT1 to be a STOCK LS1.

 

Same happened with me. Ran a totally stock 02 Z (made 315 / 333) on the highway from about 75-120. Till 100 I was at his door then he just took off like I wasn't there. I have headers, catback, 160, airfoil, ram air and some suspension work.

 

I haven't had any trouble with LS1s with my LT1, even when all I had was a K&N fipk. From a stop, from a role...

But I will admit that this could be because of the drivers, and also that my LT1 possibly runs very strong - this coming from folks who I've raced and they were later informed of how little I have done.

I'm sure if we got really stupid on a highway and explored very high speeds the LS1 would walk away....

EDIT: so to answer your question, any mods you do won't give any benefit unless theres a capable person behind the wheel. A person knowing a car well and being able to drive it to its max performance will probably yield better results than a medicore driver with a car thats more powerful.

 

lbrowne...nice car. Wheres the leather though?

 

leather is too heavy

actually the car didn't have it when I bought it and with the summers we have here I don't think I'd want it.

Maybe later down the road I might add it, but not any time soon. Thanks for the compliment!