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Old 10-09-2004 | 01:32 PM
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What would be faster?

I was wondering what would take off the line faster without spinning?

My car which is a 95 Z28 A4 (3000 Stall and Nitto DR's)
vs.
95 Z28 M6 (6 spd. and Nitto DR's)

P.S. - both cars would launch the same RPMS.

--How high can you guys with the M6 launch your cars on DR's without spinning?---

Old 10-09-2004 | 01:56 PM
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Re: What would be faster?

odds are greatly in favor of the automatic. rarely can an manual beat an auto off the line stock let alone with a high stall and grippy tires. A RARE manual driver has enough skill to expertly launch a it right, and even then its a hit or miss situation, nowhere near the consistency of the auto.

so in short the auto will be faster off the line 99% of the time.
Old 10-09-2004 | 02:09 PM
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Re: What would be faster?

hell anyone can beat me off the line
id say the auto would win that race
Old 10-09-2004 | 02:32 PM
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Re: What would be faster?

so, there is no way if the M6 driver will drop it from a certain RPM, and they are both of the same tires, that the M6 will win..
Im not talking later on the track, just off the line..

will the M6 spin more often?
Old 10-09-2004 | 02:44 PM
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Re: What would be faster?

the M6 has a higher shock load to the tires, it will lose traction before the auto, all else(tires, HP, weight) being equal
Old 10-09-2004 | 02:46 PM
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Re: What would be faster?

higher shocks?
so, there is no way that M6 can beat the A4 (High Stall, Gears, and Tire)
off the line?!??!

what if the shocks have been replaced?
Old 10-09-2004 | 03:24 PM
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Re: What would be faster?

There is every possible way for the M6 to beat the A4 out of the hole. But as mentioned before, there arent too many M6 guys who take the time and the pride in driving their car and getting it right. The M6 has the advantage of being able to drop at as high or higher an RPM than the auto, as well as being less of a power drain. The A4 has consistancy, ease of use, and less shock to the rear on its side.

When shock load was mentioned above, they mean the power shock going to the rear tires. When you drop the clutch, all of the power instantly shocks the drivetrain and rear tires, making it harder to hook up and easier to break things than with A4 that is already stalled up and preloaded to some extent.

If the cars are similar in mods, then it will come down to two things...traction available and driver skill. Ive outlaunched faster cars with slicks on my drag radials by knowing the traction available that day and driving it right. Anything can happen in a race, even if you arent suppose to be able to win. Ive also launched as high as 6k and hooked, and as low as 2500 and spun, so road/track conditions play a huge roll.

Hope that helps
Old 10-09-2004 | 04:09 PM
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Old 10-10-2004 | 11:30 AM
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Re: What would be faster?

so, what does it actually take for an M6 to beat a stalled automatic car.?
P.S - besides skills..
Old 10-10-2004 | 12:07 PM
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Re: What would be faster?

good tires and suspension
and more skill
Old 10-10-2004 | 12:16 PM
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Re: What would be faster?

Originally Posted by cndctrdj
good tires and suspension
and more skill
bingo
Old 10-10-2004 | 05:39 PM
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Re: What would be faster?

LCA's, TA, SFC's, shocks, airbags, tires, gears
Old 10-10-2004 | 09:54 PM
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Re: What would be faster?

the auto do to Tq multiplication
Old 10-11-2004 | 05:50 PM
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Re: What would be faster?

I have never been able to launch my car much above 3k without spin, however a good friend of mine with an 02 ws6 on dr's stock suspension but the sawy bar links in the front disconnected and he would launch at 4200..on the street. Granted he is an awesome driver, but for whatever reason that car would just stick. I think its possible to beat the auto out of the whole but not likely. I dont think I will ever be able to drive that well at least
Old 10-11-2004 | 06:08 PM
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Re: What would be faster?

m6 cars are hard to launch properly--- bog, clutch spin, or break the tires loose. take your pick.


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