what do u guys think of the new 2003 cobra? has anyone raced one yet? are they faster than the Ls1's? any comments on the new mustang cobra? reason why iam asking my friend will be getting one next month and he says that these new cobra will easily spank and LS1 camaros...what do u guys think?

 

At least Ford is still making a V8 rear-wheel drive performance car.
Nope.

Yep.

The new cobra motor has forced induction. The LS-1 is naturally aspirated. This is a huge difference between the two motors.
Time for a head/cam/nitrous package.

 

Well I raced a LS1, of course it beat me but it was about 6 or 7 cars on me. I just kinda of raced a 2003 Cobra tonight on the hwy...as it would catch up to me...it was just too damn quick...I can tell a difference when an LS1 catching up from the back than new Cobra...the Cobra is just too damn fast for the LS1

 

Check that out just got it off of corral.


http://www.wingardracing.com/misc/500-9-1-02.mpeg

 

Well to my Jelousy my buddy picked up a Cobra to say a couple of days ago. Old Bastard traded it in for a Vette? So it was a used Cobra with 1,500 miles on it for 35,000....What the hell is wrong with that guy...anyway. Put it this way I have a buddy running A Supra at high 11's, the cobra does high 12's according to factory. Well I raced him, I consider myself pretty good at the stick, he has six I have six, and that thing is fast. I thinkthey are heavily underrated to avoid gas guzzler tax. Well anyway, the Supra still smoked him and me, but he smoked me good, we changed the sprocket tonight for the charger with a smaller one he picked up from a machine shop. It should compress a little more air and that thing feels like a rocket. I think they need a noughty comback for the Camaros in the years ahead, because they can't go out like this....NO way.....

 

Yeah ive got a video of a stock '03 running a 12.94. Hes running against an older 60s stang and he gets beaten off the line pretty bad but after he hooks up its all over. If i had hosting i would toss it up.

 

I'm sorry to admit this, but that thing is completely BADASS! I like the looks, the performance, hell I like everything about the car... I would not be ashamed to own one, that's for sho!

 

Ok.. then answer me this.. You take a Z28 for about 26K then throw on a supercharger for what? about 4K or so... 30K maybe 31500..

So its less, but is it enough? I think so.. I would like to see what a charger only vs a 03 cobra would run since that would be a closer comparison..

 

A 6psi blower on an LS1 would completely blow away the Cobra. It would put you over 400 RWHP easily, 9psi over 450 RWHP, with the proper "blower cam", 500 RWHP is not that hard. It's kind of pushing it on the stock short block, but it would eat any Cobra alive, and you would have spent much less money.

 

It's still a pony car, doesn't look much different then the others. Ride in one tell me what you think about it. You ride as high as a truck and the passanger compartment feels more like a minivan then a sports car. The 03 cobra is still a mustang regardless of how fast it is.


It's called out of the box performance, you start modding one car and you're comparing apples to oranges. Look at a c5, costs more then the 03 cobra but would still get spanked. Your argument is not valid, it's as invalid when you make it as it was when everyone else made it.

This argument has been beat to death and back again time and time again. If you like pony cars and you're looking for the fastest car out of the box buy an 03. IF you wanna make an argument for the camaro think about it this way. The cobra is not faster then the camaro essentially because an 03 camaro does not exist, you can't make a fair comparison between cars of different model years. Think about comparing a 99 LS1 to a 98 Stang, no comparison. So essentially ford did not win the race in the end, chevy quit while they were ahead Just my $0.02... Think about it...

 

True, but you just compared two unequal cars also. Don't compare the C5 to the Cobra, as the Cobra is the top of the line and the C5 isn't. Take the Z06 against the Cobra and now it's an equal race, if anything the Z06 will beat the Cobra in the 1/4 because it is packing about the same power with 500 lbs less weight to lug around. It should also kill it on an auto-x course...

 

The Stang is very impressive. I'm not even a Mustang fan and I think is good. Just remember, Ford has to supercharge the thing to beat an LS1. Oh well, winning is winning no matter how you do it. The question the really interests me is what the next SS is going to have under the hood to beat it. We'll just have to wait and see.

 

understandable, but.. I wasnt going for apples to oranges.. I wasnt even modding the rest of the car.. I did just say supercharger and thats all... Nothing else.. so in fact all I was going for was the addition of a basic supercharger package to the z28. And based on just that I asked which one would win.. I too think the Z would win.. and it is stilll close to apple and oranges to me as I did not say change the exhaust to anything.. just add air..

Make it more interesting and which of the two would win at the autox course and then the drag strip.. I think the Z would have it..

Another factor is which one would be more reliable? Heck, if you want to get into reliable mods discussion I would of just said to add an $8k Lingenfelter package and be done with it..

I talked to a few owners of Lingenfelter cars and they put miles on their cars and havent had any trouble at all.. thats just sick..

 

You're Waaaay wrong here. The cobra is intended to be in competition with a C5 not a Z06. Top of the line is of no relavence in this situation. And as far as a Z06 beating a cobra, that race is all driver, no matter who wants to argue it otherwise. Auto-x would also be alot closer then you care to admit. Not trying to flame you man, but to me it seems that you've only investigated this comparison from a chevy side. Right now the 03 cobra is THE BEST bang for the buck on the market. Comparing a $36,000 pony car to a $52,000 Z06 corvette is absurd. They are not only in a different class of automobile but a way different class of price.

 

whatta u worried about u got a Z06?

anyway i agree with P.C.
putting a blower on a '02 SS would make it an orange, just like the '03 cobra (orange).
if not the SS is an apple, and not the same, BUT if chevy made a '03 camaro, then it doesnt matter whats under the hood, cuz they're both APPLES.


and im still waiting to race a stang PERIOD.