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Old 07-28-2003 | 08:18 PM
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Alignment Question

I had new tires put on my car. The car was pulling to the left pretty bad. Took it to Tires Plus and had an alignment done. Still pulls ot the left...Tires plus said it was Radial Pull. Switched my front left tire with my rear left. Still pulls to the left. Front alignment #'s are as follows:

Left Front Camber: .7
Left Front Caster: 4.6
Left Front Toe: 0.01

Right Front Camber: .2
Right Front Caster: 4.2
Right Front Toe: -0.02

Can anyone make sense of that? MY mechanic says without looking at things just the numbers sound like it should pull tot he left. Anyone? Anyone?
Old 07-28-2003 | 11:39 PM
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I could be wrong here. But concerning toe, a positive number means that it is pointing outward. A negative number means it's pointing inward. So your left tire is pointing out. The right tire is pointing in. Sounds like it's turning left to me. If I'm wrong then both wheels are pointing to the right then and it shouldn't support your symptoms.

However, I do know camber readings. And you're showing positive camber. This means that the bottom of the tires are tucked in farther than the tops. You must have stock suspension. lol Anyway, your left wheel is tipped over more than the right. When you lean a tire over to the side when you're rolling it down the driveway what happens? It turns toward that side right? So that is compounding the problem.

Down here in Florida, the roads slope off to the right to assist in rain water drainage. We have to run a little bit of camber or toe to the left to keep the car from pulling to the right from the angle the roads are slanted. But your numbers do sound a little off.

I'd take it back and make them do it again. Either there is something bent in your suspension that is keeping them from aligning it right or they just did a half *** job. If it was me, I'd make a bet with the manager that if he could put a new set of tires on that would cure the problem I'd buy them. If it didn't fix the problem the tires would be free though. I imagine he'd have the alignment checked out first. That 'radial pull' line is a load of crap. I've never been able to swap radials from one side to the other and have it pull the other direction. That's just their way of taking your alignment money and getting you out of the shop.

Old 07-30-2003 | 06:24 PM
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2002Z28SSConv, you are correct about the toe.

A pull to the right can be caused from uneven tire wear or crowned roads. That is a lot of caster for a daily driver, and the car will want to follow grooves in the road. I would also want the camber to be more even. For a daily driver, I would suggest:
Camber: -.5º per side
Caster: +3.6º D / +4.0º P (compensates for road crown and lack of driver weight)
Toe: Slight toe in, like .05-.1 per side.
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