Avg LS1 track times
#2
would depend on driver, weather, elevation, and possibly even which one is broken in..
Too many variables.. Most people dont even keep their cars stock long enough to make a pass.. I have personally witnessed a 2001 make a 13.5 sec pass.. but he was using slicks.. he was straight from the showroom floor (not broken in) and using slicks.. I was dissapointed mainly because he could of just make a pass with the standard tires..
My car is at 2500 miles and still bone stock.. not even free mods. While I do not have an SS, I dont see how its hood will help it in the 1/4 mile.
If not this sunday, then by the next for sure.. I will have made a pass at HRP(Houston Raceway Park) and have kept my car bone stock.
Free mods are mods.. I want to know what the car runs, at a track, with 0 mods whatsoever.
tomorrow is 0mod dyno for a baseline.. I am adding the cost of the dyno to my modifications so that I can get an accurate idea of the benefits from the mods I can expect.
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Psycho Cabbage
2002 Camaro Z28
(6 sp) Bone stock
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-Traded in- 1995 Camaro Z28 (A4 (#6 I might add!),ES tranny mount and torque arm bushing,SLP CAI,ASP 34% Underdrive,Strange 3.73's (shredded Auburn),1LE alum driveshaft & intake elbow,Yokohamas AVS Intermediates,160-stat,MAF screen removed, HPP+(for shift points only),Borla Y-pipe, Flowmaster Force-II catback, Gutted Cat, Airlift Airbag, !TB Bypass, J&M LCA's, Bosch Platinums, Moroso BlueMax Wires, Free RamAir, Meziere Electric H2O pump, MAC 3point STB, BMR Panhard, SCR SFC's
Just installed:Nu-tek Heads (mild port) and Comp Cams 1.6RR's! New track and dyno #'s to follow!
best 13.44 @103.26
0-60ft 1.96
270 RWHP/296 RWTQ
0-60MPH 4.8sec
1987 Porsche 944S (waiting on LT1 mod)
Too many variables.. Most people dont even keep their cars stock long enough to make a pass.. I have personally witnessed a 2001 make a 13.5 sec pass.. but he was using slicks.. he was straight from the showroom floor (not broken in) and using slicks.. I was dissapointed mainly because he could of just make a pass with the standard tires..
My car is at 2500 miles and still bone stock.. not even free mods. While I do not have an SS, I dont see how its hood will help it in the 1/4 mile.
If not this sunday, then by the next for sure.. I will have made a pass at HRP(Houston Raceway Park) and have kept my car bone stock.
Free mods are mods.. I want to know what the car runs, at a track, with 0 mods whatsoever.
tomorrow is 0mod dyno for a baseline.. I am adding the cost of the dyno to my modifications so that I can get an accurate idea of the benefits from the mods I can expect.
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Psycho Cabbage
2002 Camaro Z28
(6 sp) Bone stock
Webmaster for RaceHer.com
Check out the current polls and vote!
by the prěcking of my thumb, something wicked this way comes
-Traded in- 1995 Camaro Z28 (A4 (#6 I might add!),ES tranny mount and torque arm bushing,SLP CAI,ASP 34% Underdrive,Strange 3.73's (shredded Auburn),1LE alum driveshaft & intake elbow,Yokohamas AVS Intermediates,160-stat,MAF screen removed, HPP+(for shift points only),Borla Y-pipe, Flowmaster Force-II catback, Gutted Cat, Airlift Airbag, !TB Bypass, J&M LCA's, Bosch Platinums, Moroso BlueMax Wires, Free RamAir, Meziere Electric H2O pump, MAC 3point STB, BMR Panhard, SCR SFC's
Just installed:Nu-tek Heads (mild port) and Comp Cams 1.6RR's! New track and dyno #'s to follow!
best 13.44 @103.26
0-60ft 1.96
270 RWHP/296 RWTQ
0-60MPH 4.8sec
1987 Porsche 944S (waiting on LT1 mod)
#4
A WS6 and SS both made in the same year should have identical times. Many people claim that a Ws6 has more hp because it has better ram air. This may true but most WS6 are also trans ams which way more than an SS because of Ground effects etc. So in the end, both cars run virtually the same. I ran my SS bone stock and got a 13.4 in an auto.
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2001 Camaro SS A4
Slp d/d cat back exhaust
Slp whisper lid
Whisper MAF ends
ASP Crank Pully
Best et: 12.98 @108.4
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2001 Camaro SS A4
Slp d/d cat back exhaust
Slp whisper lid
Whisper MAF ends
ASP Crank Pully
Best et: 12.98 @108.4
#5
although you say that they should be identical they are not the same times i have seen on many shows like car and driver and hot rod tv also read in magazines that the trans am will beat the ss most of the time do to the hood it is a more effective ram air set up than the ss but as for weather or not they are the same times all i can go by is what i have read.
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98 Z28, Onyx Black, A4, t-tops, other than the free mods, a random tech cat back, and a whisper lid, it is stock
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98 Z28, Onyx Black, A4, t-tops, other than the free mods, a random tech cat back, and a whisper lid, it is stock
#6
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by 1sloLS1:
although you say that they should be identical they are not the same times i have seen on many shows like car and driver and hot rod tv also read in magazines that the trans am will beat the ss most of the time do to the hood it is a more effective ram air set up than the ss but as for weather or not they are the same times all i can go by is what i have read.
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although you say that they should be identical they are not the same times i have seen on many shows like car and driver and hot rod tv also read in magazines that the trans am will beat the ss most of the time do to the hood it is a more effective ram air set up than the ss but as for weather or not they are the same times all i can go by is what i have read.
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#7
However, different SS's will run different times, so thats really a dead end. Bone stock, its generally aknowledged that LS1s are good for 13 flat at the extreme low end (Perfect conditions, incredible track prep, amazing driver) to high 13s (Automatic, extreme heat, poor track prep, bad driver) If your LS1 is in the 14s, theres something wrong, either with the car, or the conditions.
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1998 Z/28
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1994 Z/28 14.06@100 - Totalled, 8-25-02.
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1998 Z/28
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1994 Z/28 14.06@100 - Totalled, 8-25-02.
#8
1/4 mile times depend on alot of different things, the track condition, weather, DRIVER, Car, my 99 Z28 M6 went 13.4's @ 108 bone stock with 875 miles on it, at 600 miles the car was going, 13.2's. with an air box, k&n, exhaust, shifter, & nitto D/radials the car ran 12.8s @ 111.00. My 02'SS M6 bone stock (came with center mount exhaust) went 13.1's @ 109 with 1100 miles, car has 9000 now & feels alot stronger. Never go by magazine & TV times they are rarely accurate.
#9
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by MissedShift:
Bone stock, its generally aknowledged that LS1s are good for 13 flat at the extreme low end (Perfect conditions, incredible track prep, amazing driver) to high 13s (Automatic, extreme heat, poor track prep, bad driver) If your LS1 is in the 14s, theres something wrong, either with the car, or the conditions.</font>
Bone stock, its generally aknowledged that LS1s are good for 13 flat at the extreme low end (Perfect conditions, incredible track prep, amazing driver) to high 13s (Automatic, extreme heat, poor track prep, bad driver) If your LS1 is in the 14s, theres something wrong, either with the car, or the conditions.</font>
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2002 Z28 - A4, 2.73's, Blk/blk, leather, T-tops, sport appearance package - just bought on June 26, 2002! - Pics
1981 Z28 - 383, TH350 trans., 3.42 posi - sold August, 2000 - Pics
1973 Camaro - Dad's & my project in the works - to be built: 355 Chevy, 11.5:1 pop-ups, "camel hump" heads (w/2.02 valves), solid cam, 4-speed.....it should be quick! - Pics
#10
quote:
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Originally posted by: psychocabbage
"would depend on driver, weather, elevation,
and possibly even which one is broken in.."
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ELEVATION! "psychocabbage" has hit on the most important thing. In order to be on equal ground, every E.T. posted on here should be corrected for elevation like the NHRA does for their National Records. (at least the elevation should be posted with the E.T.)
If a car is running the 14's and is at a track at 2,500 ft. elevation, that same car would easily be running one full second faster at sea level. I'm new to this board, but have been drag racing since the mid sixties off and on, (giving away my old age here) but really guys, you can't compare E.T.'s and be on a level playing field without correction for elevation, and possibly ambient temp, air density, etc.
The comparisons mean NOTHING if not adjusted for these elements.
Just my .02, opinions may vary.
Good luck,
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ChevyGoldfinger
Pewter '99 Z28 LS1
T-Roof coupe A4 3.23:1
GM sport appearance ground effects option, factory tinted side & rear windows.
Chrome GM 5 stars with Yoko 245/50 V rated
MBA Aluminum Pedals & Door sills
SS Stainless rear insert letters
QTEC Cutout, TransGo shift kit, only performance mods so far.
No Time slips yet, just got this car in July '02
Plans for Currie 9" with 3.73 posi, GMMG catback exhaust. LS1 edit.
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Originally posted by: psychocabbage
"would depend on driver, weather, elevation,
and possibly even which one is broken in.."
---------------------------------------------
ELEVATION! "psychocabbage" has hit on the most important thing. In order to be on equal ground, every E.T. posted on here should be corrected for elevation like the NHRA does for their National Records. (at least the elevation should be posted with the E.T.)
If a car is running the 14's and is at a track at 2,500 ft. elevation, that same car would easily be running one full second faster at sea level. I'm new to this board, but have been drag racing since the mid sixties off and on, (giving away my old age here) but really guys, you can't compare E.T.'s and be on a level playing field without correction for elevation, and possibly ambient temp, air density, etc.
The comparisons mean NOTHING if not adjusted for these elements.
Just my .02, opinions may vary.
Good luck,
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ChevyGoldfinger
Pewter '99 Z28 LS1
T-Roof coupe A4 3.23:1
GM sport appearance ground effects option, factory tinted side & rear windows.
Chrome GM 5 stars with Yoko 245/50 V rated
MBA Aluminum Pedals & Door sills
SS Stainless rear insert letters
QTEC Cutout, TransGo shift kit, only performance mods so far.
No Time slips yet, just got this car in July '02
Plans for Currie 9" with 3.73 posi, GMMG catback exhaust. LS1 edit.
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