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Old 07-23-2005 | 06:20 PM
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i have mixed feelings on putting headers on my '99 z28 camaro. ive heard different stories. ive heard that they can mess up your timing on an LS1, so if i was to get headers what would be the best type to get?
Old 07-23-2005 | 06:26 PM
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They don't mess up your timing. If anything you'll run a little rich.
Old 07-23-2005 | 08:19 PM
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Everyone will tell you to get long tube headers (LTs) due to the higher horsepower/torque gains. They do cost more then shorty headers and are harder to install (usually) but are probably one of the best mods you can do. Headers will NOT mess up your timing, they have nothing to do with it. Kooks, FLP, Hooker, Jet-Hot are some of the big header names.
Old 07-23-2005 | 08:56 PM
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My thing against shorties is the price to hp gain ratio. I went with mids for ground clearance. It runs quite a bit rich. Anyone know the cheapest way to fix the air fuel ratio? All my options look like several hundred dollars at the least.

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Old 07-24-2005 | 04:23 AM
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LTs are expensive but worth it.get a good quality header like Kooks.



sometimes you can get away without tuning.

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Old 07-24-2005 | 07:08 AM
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Search will trun up hundreds or results as far as headers.. Skip the shorties. Go w/ mids or LT's.. I have heard nothing but good about Kooks. I have the SLP's and I like them mostly for the dual coating (and a slew of other unexperienced reasons) they'll last a long time and look awesome!

They won't mess up timing, just throw o2 codes and run rich.. A MAF translator could adjust the mixture. Or get a tune..
Old 07-24-2005 | 07:20 AM
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But long tube headers won,t pass inspection will they?
Old 07-24-2005 | 07:32 AM
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^ ?? That's what I'm trying to figure out.........
Old 07-24-2005 | 10:11 AM
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there are no inspections in florida
Old 07-24-2005 | 11:38 AM
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But long tube headers won,t pass inspection will they?
Passing inspection will depend on a few things...like how thorough your inspector is. They may or may not notice that the cats have been moved/deleted (personally I look underneath every car but when my car was inspected in NY they didn't even lift it up). If you're in a strict state you may want to stick with emissions-legal headers which will enable you to keep AIR and EGR...non-emissions headers don't have provisions for them. You may have a few issues to work out with the o2 sensors that may throw some codes...so a good tune after the installation will help you get things ironed out + get you the most gain out of that particular modification.
Old 07-24-2005 | 07:22 PM
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yeah headers won't mess anything up, I've found that longtubes are cheaper than shorties. I just bought some uncoated flowtechs for 230 dollars. Shipping was 30 bucks. They are a pain to install and the gaskets won't last as long as the stockers, but its not hard to change them. That and lower clearance is the only downfall.
Old 07-24-2005 | 09:09 PM
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Originally Posted by 99blackSS
My thing against shorties is the price to hp gain ratio. I went with mids for ground clearance. It runs quite a bit rich. Anyone know the cheapest way to fix the air fuel ratio? All my options look like several hundred dollars at the least.
When i had a vacuum leak in some random 2" hose in my intake, it made me run rich. The shop that fixed the part set my fuel/air ratio back right. Cost $93, mainly just from reading the SES and the part they had to order. I don't think they charged any for that little "tune".

If you're running rich, couldn't you just go in for a tune-up and complain of it running rich?
Old 07-24-2005 | 09:26 PM
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Do it once do it right. QTP headers.
Old 07-24-2005 | 09:30 PM
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QTPs are good too.
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