Holley Powershot or K&N?
#1
Holley Powershot or K&N?
I've been a K&N Fan for years but all this I hear about the powershot filter is giving me second thoughts.. Gimme some opinions. Thanks
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Mark
'01 WS6 T/A
M6, bone stock
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Mark
'01 WS6 T/A
M6, bone stock
#4
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Tucdog:
Go with the Holley, you don't have to use the silly foam gasket like with the K&N.</font>
Go with the Holley, you don't have to use the silly foam gasket like with the K&N.</font>
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2002 White SS
- whisper motorsports air lid
- Magna Flow cat back exhaust
- K&N
#5
id put that gasket on if i were you, you could be getting unfiltered air into the motor.
Id go with the Holley, because of the no gasket thing. I keep having to put mine back in place
Also, Accell just came out with a line of fiters lke the holley and K&N, summit has them, you might wanna check into those before you make a decision
Id go with the Holley, because of the no gasket thing. I keep having to put mine back in place
Also, Accell just came out with a line of fiters lke the holley and K&N, summit has them, you might wanna check into those before you make a decision
#6
hahhaa
the only foam gaskets i have seen on K&N's were for the carbed engines. For these, I have never seen where or how it would mount.
as for "letting unfiltered air in", ISNT THAT WHAT THE WHITE GAUSE STUFF IS THERE FOR?
:P
u people crack me up..
I asked people yesterday and heard no one mention any fitment issues with the K&N..
I think for me, I will just but the one that I happen to get when I buy a lid.
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Psycho Cabbage
2002 Camaro Z28
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the only foam gaskets i have seen on K&N's were for the carbed engines. For these, I have never seen where or how it would mount.
as for "letting unfiltered air in", ISNT THAT WHAT THE WHITE GAUSE STUFF IS THERE FOR?
:P
u people crack me up..
I asked people yesterday and heard no one mention any fitment issues with the K&N..
I think for me, I will just but the one that I happen to get when I buy a lid.
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Psycho Cabbage
2002 Camaro Z28
(6 sp) Bone stock
Webmaster for RaceHer.com
Check out the current polls and vote!
by the prìcking of my thumb, something wicked this way comes
-Traded in- 1995 Camaro Z28 (A4 (#6 I might add!),ES tranny mount and torque arm bushing,SLP CAI,ASP 34% Underdrive,Strange 3.73's (shredded Auburn),1LE alum driveshaft & intake elbow,Yokohamas AVS Intermediates,160-stat,MAF screen removed, HPP+(for shift points only),Borla Y-pipe, Flowmaster Force-II catback, Gutted Cat, Airlift Airbag, !TB Bypass, J&M LCA's, Bosch Platinums, Moroso BlueMax Wires, Free RamAir, Meziere Electric H2O pump, MAC 3point STB, BMR Panhard, SCR SFC's
Just installed:Nu-tek Heads (mild port) and Comp Cams 1.6RR's! New track and dyno #'s to follow!
best 13.44 @103.26
0-60ft 1.96
270 RWHP/296 RWTQ
0-60MPH 4.8sec
1987 Porsche 944S (waiting on LT1 mod)
#7
psychocabbage,
Glad I (we) could "crack you up." Get the facts straight, the K&N requires that you put in the foam gasket on the airlid, they supply it. It gets tore up pretty easy. I have had both. The Holley fits without any gasket, and yes it is reusable, clean and re-oil. Go do a search of LS1.com, or even here maybe, and see how cracked up you are. As far as : "letting unfiltered air in", I believe Freak is referring to not getting a proper seal without the gasket and air going around the filter into the throttle body. So when your intake sucks in a bug or dirt, it could go by your filter, not through, and that would really "crack you up." Nice to see you are so informed since you have not used either.
Peace
http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread...eferrerid=5623
[This message has been edited by Tucdog (edited August 26, 2002).]
[This message has been edited by Tucdog (edited August 26, 2002).]
Glad I (we) could "crack you up." Get the facts straight, the K&N requires that you put in the foam gasket on the airlid, they supply it. It gets tore up pretty easy. I have had both. The Holley fits without any gasket, and yes it is reusable, clean and re-oil. Go do a search of LS1.com, or even here maybe, and see how cracked up you are. As far as : "letting unfiltered air in", I believe Freak is referring to not getting a proper seal without the gasket and air going around the filter into the throttle body. So when your intake sucks in a bug or dirt, it could go by your filter, not through, and that would really "crack you up." Nice to see you are so informed since you have not used either.
Peace
http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread...eferrerid=5623
[This message has been edited by Tucdog (edited August 26, 2002).]
[This message has been edited by Tucdog (edited August 26, 2002).]
#8
yes, I am clueless, no unfiltered air can possibly get into an engine even if there is no seal on the air filter. No I dont have a K&N, and they dont have gaskets either. I made it all up.
Retard.
[This message has been edited by Freak (edited August 26, 2002).]
Retard.
[This message has been edited by Freak (edited August 26, 2002).]
#9
I have a K&N and a Lid, but no gasket. It was like that when I bought the car. Is this bad? And what should i do?
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1998 NBM Z28, A4 2.73, Chrome 10-spoke SS rims, RK Sport ground effects, QTEC, Flowmaster, CAI, LS1 Motorsports Lid, K&N, MSD wires, custom painted interior.
**On Order:
SLP Ultra-Z Ram Air Hood. **
Best ET: 13.665 @ 103.25
Best 60': 2.114
Best reaction : 0.649
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1998 NBM Z28, A4 2.73, Chrome 10-spoke SS rims, RK Sport ground effects, QTEC, Flowmaster, CAI, LS1 Motorsports Lid, K&N, MSD wires, custom painted interior.
**On Order:
SLP Ultra-Z Ram Air Hood. **
Best ET: 13.665 @ 103.25
Best 60': 2.114
Best reaction : 0.649
#10
GoFast,
Call K&N (you may have to call more than once to get it free), try asking for tech help, they don't seem to care to charge someone $5 for a piece of foam. Tell them your car and year and see what happens. When I had my K&N, the first rep wanted $$, called back for tech, mailed for free.
Call K&N (you may have to call more than once to get it free), try asking for tech help, they don't seem to care to charge someone $5 for a piece of foam. Tell them your car and year and see what happens. When I had my K&N, the first rep wanted $$, called back for tech, mailed for free.
#11
Holley ! I ran a K&N for about a week ... pitched it and bought a Holley.
The Holley is designed for our cars. From what I understand, the K&N is a Volkswagon filter with a foam gasket to make it fit our cars.
Which would you rather have?
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2001 TransAm WS6, M6 3.42
HPP, TBB, 160* t-stat, MTI Lid, Holley PowerShot, Flowmaster 80, Port/Polish MAF, !CAGS
www.BlackWS6.com
2001 Z28
-- R.I.P. - 06/25/02
The Holley is designed for our cars. From what I understand, the K&N is a Volkswagon filter with a foam gasket to make it fit our cars.
Which would you rather have?
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2001 TransAm WS6, M6 3.42
HPP, TBB, 160* t-stat, MTI Lid, Holley PowerShot, Flowmaster 80, Port/Polish MAF, !CAGS
www.BlackWS6.com
2001 Z28
-- R.I.P. - 06/25/02
#12
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Tucdog:
psychocabbage,
Glad I (we) could "crack you up." Get the facts straight, the K&N requires that you put in the foam gasket on the airlid, they supply it. It gets tore up pretty easy. I have had both. The Holley fits without any gasket, and yes it is reusable, clean and re-oil. Go do a search of LS1.com, or even here maybe, and see how cracked up you are. As far as : "letting unfiltered air in", I believe Freak is referring to not getting a proper seal without the gasket and air going around the filter into the throttle body. So when your intake sucks in a bug or dirt, it could go by your filter, not through, and that would really "crack you up." Nice to see you are so informed since you have not used either.
Peace
http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread...eferrerid=5623
[This message has been edited by Tucdog (edited August 26, 2002).]
[This message has been edited by Tucdog (edited August 26, 2002).]</font>
psychocabbage,
Glad I (we) could "crack you up." Get the facts straight, the K&N requires that you put in the foam gasket on the airlid, they supply it. It gets tore up pretty easy. I have had both. The Holley fits without any gasket, and yes it is reusable, clean and re-oil. Go do a search of LS1.com, or even here maybe, and see how cracked up you are. As far as : "letting unfiltered air in", I believe Freak is referring to not getting a proper seal without the gasket and air going around the filter into the throttle body. So when your intake sucks in a bug or dirt, it could go by your filter, not through, and that would really "crack you up." Nice to see you are so informed since you have not used either.
Peace
http://www.ls1.com/forums/showthread...eferrerid=5623
[This message has been edited by Tucdog (edited August 26, 2002).]
[This message has been edited by Tucdog (edited August 26, 2002).]</font>
Have not used the K&N on a LS1.. have used it on my PORSCHE.. There was no foam filer.. And it too is a large rectangular filter.. Have also used it on my Mercedes.. It too had no foam.
Nice to see that you have no sense of humor.. damn the LT1 guys are right.. some of you people here are snobby pieces of ****!
I will just ignore you for here on out.
#13
Snobby, not a chance. No sense of humor, not a chance. If you noticed, I gave out informed information. Your post did not seem to have humor, rather insult. If you read my response to you, I ended it with "Peace." I am not one to flame others, not in my belief system.
Ignore my posts if you chose, I just try and pass on info that I have learned over the past 3 years on this board and the other LS1 boards I belong to.
Again,
Peace
Ignore my posts if you chose, I just try and pass on info that I have learned over the past 3 years on this board and the other LS1 boards I belong to.
Again,
Peace
#15
Regardless of flow because it will be real hard to find truely non biased informantion, I would pick personal preferance..
I will go with the Holley cause its blue. I am sure they are very similar and will flow similarly but the added foam insert/spacer seems to not be worth it.
I may get the clear plastic lid to show off the blue or just a carbon fiber whisper lid..
Someitmes, unless you have a dyno, you have to go off of gut instinct. Mine is telling me that from what has been written, Holley researched and created one or found one that fits.. K&N seems to of simply found one that would do with a little help..
I will go with the Holley cause its blue. I am sure they are very similar and will flow similarly but the added foam insert/spacer seems to not be worth it.
I may get the clear plastic lid to show off the blue or just a carbon fiber whisper lid..
Someitmes, unless you have a dyno, you have to go off of gut instinct. Mine is telling me that from what has been written, Holley researched and created one or found one that fits.. K&N seems to of simply found one that would do with a little help..