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Old 02-20-2004, 01:27 PM
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How much horsepower would these mods add?

It is a 2000 TA WS6.... i just copy and pasted the mods.

160 degree Therm- Hypertech PPIII- Blistein shocks- 02 Simms- smooth bellows- EGR Modded ported and polished MAF- Gutted Cats- CAGS- Mac springs- 3 inch cut outs- Corvette FRC's- LS1 Motorsport Lid- 3 inch Flowmaster exhaust- TB Bypass- Poly torque arm bushings- Ripper Shifter- BMR APHR

You guys would help me solve a dispute. thanks.
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Old 02-20-2004, 01:48 PM
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maybe 15?
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Old 02-20-2004, 02:01 PM
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Most likely 0 ... the lid and the cutout are good for a 10-15 gain ...

The combination of the HPP3 power tuning and a ported MAF .. probably good for a 10-15 loss or more ...
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Old 02-20-2004, 02:14 PM
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thats what I said. I would like some more opinions still just to make sure though.
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Old 02-20-2004, 02:42 PM
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Maybe 10rwhp depending upon how bad the tuning gets jacked up... Just do the lid and cutout for good HP gains...
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Old 02-20-2004, 03:27 PM
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160 degree Therm - no gain unless fans are adjusted too, even then its minimal.
Hypertech PPIII- neglegible power increase, can actualy hurt power
Blistein shocks- suspension; no power increase
02 Simms- no power increase
smooth bellows- maybe 1 hp on a cold day
EGR Modded - maybe 1 hp on a cold day
ported and polished MAF- maybe 1 hp on a cold day
Gutted Cats- why? do you like destroying the enviornment?
CAGS- no power increase
Mac springs- no power increase
3 inch cut outs- more than 1??? 5-10 hp maybe
Corvette FRC's- cosmetic; no hp increase
LS1 Motorsport Lid - 5 or 10 maybe
3 inch Flowmaster exhaust- why a catback if you are running cutout(s)?
TB Bypass - no power increase
Poly torque arm bushings - no power increase
Ripper Shifter- no power increase
BMR APHR - no power increase
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Old 02-21-2004, 12:31 AM
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Originally posted by Aklaim
160 degree Therm - no gain unless fans are adjusted too, even then its minimal.
Hypertech PPIII- neglegible power increase, can actualy hurt power
I read your whole post and agree.....except for the part I highlighted. The 160 therostat with a cooling fan adjustment is where a HPP+ makes all the performance gains. I tried this at the track. My car ran consistently .2 seconds faster in the 1/4 mile with the fan tuning and 160 degree thermostat installed. That would translate to around 15HP or so. I deleted the program the same evening at the track and the car slowed .2 sec per 1/4 mile. Adding the lower fan turn-on program back in lowered the times .2, as in the beginning.

I will agree that the Hypertech tune alone added nothing to the performance of the car. The fans turning on at a lower temp with the 160 degree thermostat did. .2 .....or about 4 car lengths at 105 !

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Well, if it worked for you i guess maybe it does work for some. But here in california where we can only get 91 octane, the performance tune can actualy hurt power because the tune is meant for 93 octane. When it advances the timing, and the gas cant support it so it pings, and then the computer pulls more timing than it was given so we end up losing power.
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Originally posted by Schantin
I read your whole post and agree.....except for the part I highlighted. The 160 therostat with a cooling fan adjustment is where a HPP+ makes all the performance gains. I tried this at the track. My car ran consistently .2 seconds faster in the 1/4 mile with the fan tuning and 160 degree thermostat installed. That would translate to around 15HP or so. I deleted the program the same evening at the track and the car slowed .2 sec per 1/4 mile. Adding the lower fan turn-on program back in lowered the times .2, as in the beginning.

I will agree that the Hypertech tune alone added nothing to the performance of the car. The fans turning on at a lower temp with the 160 degree thermostat did. .2 .....or about 4 car lengths at 105 !

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How much time between laps and what was the weather??
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Originally posted by V6toZ28
Most likely 0 ... the lid and the cutout are good for a 10-15 gain ...

The combination of the HPP3 power tuning and a ported MAF .. probably good for a 10-15 loss or more ...
Yeah right , I just did it . the PP3 tune and ported MAF ends with a lid and the difference was fricking crazy . The guy that told mke to get the ends done was someone who works at a dyno shop . He said it put down 7 hp to the wheels with teh ends . Also install university said its the best free mod you can do " gives most HP "

Trust me , the MAF ends make a difference .
w/all that your probably looking at 15 hp or better to the wheels .
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