On a LS1 camaro ss, how much NOS can you spray, and how much NOS can you spray into an LT1 engine? Because i'm planning on getting myself a LS1 camaro, probably a 2001 or 2002 model, and i'm going to upgrade it to where i'll be running in the 10's once i start spraying and when i put a (vortech) supercharger on it. I know the LS1 is an aluminum block, so i was curious if it would take as much, more, or less NOS compaired to how much NOS a LT1 can handle.

And any suggestions on what i should do to my car when i get it would be helpfull. I have a few ideas, but i'd rather hear what you ppl think i should do so i can compaire your idea's and mine. I'm still torn between a 97 LT1 camaro ss and either a 2001 or 2002 LS1 camaro ss. Thanks guys!

 

heya

First off NOS is a company.. so you cant spray it..

Nitrous ?

Depends on whos aking your kit.. 125-175

 

Why are you so worried about nitrous?? Granted I dont know much about NO2 however each motor has its plusses and minuses way beyond the simple ability to "take" X amount of nitrous. Buying a car shouldnt largely be based on an ability to take a certain size shot of nitrous

For example you should know:

The aluminum block on the LS1 is sleeved with steel cylinder liners
The Ls1 has 6 bolt splayed main bearing caps. The Lt1 has 2 bolt mains.
The cost to upgrade a LS1 car is substantially more than a LT1 car
The heads on the stock LS1 flow better than worked LT1 heads... about 50cfm more than a stock LT1 head.
The LS1 is only marginally lighter than the Lt1 since the block had to be thicker ot have the same strength as steel.
Stock for stock, the LS1 makes in the neighborhood of 30-50 more hp than the Lt1.

and so much more.

PS... the SS and the Z28 share the same motor/tranny/axle so dont confine yourself to just the SS's in your search. For the price of an 01 SS you can find yourself one of the rare Lt4 97 SS Camaros... also worth thinking about

 

i would rather have a LT4 than a ls1 personally. A LT4 will take out a LS1.they were underated quite a bit.

Another issue may be the high Compression ration on the LS1's.It has a 10.0 CR. I have read that this is an issue,and it can really hurt your engine.Someone who knows more about this shed some light on us.

 

well, like i said, i was planning on doing work to the engine to get it where if i shot nos and put in a vortech supercharger, i could run in the 10's or maybe the 9's. im like really serious about this though. I just can't do all motor on the car because then i wouldn't be able to drive it in the streets cuz it would overheat on me.

I just wanted to know what would be a better engine to spray in because i heard the LT1's can take more than the LS1's due to the LS1's being aluminum.

what are the specs for the LT4's? are they hard to come by?

 

the lt4 pushes out 330 (underated) horsepower, and i was told the torque is 335.I would rather have a LT4 than a LS1.first of all they are faster, 2nd you dont have to deal with getting made fun of because your car sounds bad,or it looks like a catfish, but you will have to deal with the Geo stuff.lol.But they are very very very rare.I think they usually dyno at about 315rwhp..ish??? stock....its bene a while that maybe off

 

alright... since they're rare and all, shouldn't i just stick with an ls1? i like the body stile more than the 93-97... but they're almost the same. the 2001-2002 ls1 camaro ss has 335 hp while (i just checked it out) the 97 lt4 camaro ss has 330. i also read that the lt4 is just a modified lt1. can't i just do the same with an ls1? its like... ok, i want to get my dream car, which is a camaro ss... i just don't know if to go with the LT1 or the LS1 and modify it up the *** and spend a few grand doing so. it's like... i wanna get the best camaro i can get so i can spend a few grand on it and make it even better. i dont wanna get 2nd best and then spend some money on it... i wanna get the best. so like, from what i understood, the 01-02 ls1's were faster than the lt1's by a long shot... but like i said, im going to some major engine work on the car, and spray in it (not to mention put the supercharger in it)... so any suggestions would be awesome.

 

Supercharger+10.25:1 compression ratio and nitrous?? interesting. Since you are going to need some serious motor work, why bother with an 01-02 and just get a 98 LS1. Put the extra bucks into the motor or something else.
BTW, the 01-02 SS cars are rated at 325 hp. Of course factory number dont mean much of anything in a camaro... figure it this way

93 LT1 260-270 RWHP
94-97 Lt1 255-265 RWHP
97 LT4 305-325 RWHP
98-99 LS1 290-305 RWHP
00 Ls1 295-310 RWHP
01-02 Ls1 300-315 RWHP

Yes, The Lt4 is a factory modded Lt1. The LS6 is a factory modded LS1.

Cool to see you are enthusiastic about Camaros, but you have a bit to learn about them before you have a 10 second car. Picked a good place to learn... lots of smart car guys here.

BTW, there are a lot of very streetable 10 second cars, many are even N/A. Check out lingenfelter's 427 "conversion" for LS1 cars. 427.6 cu in 500+ hp, streetable, Naturally aspirated and warranteed. Very nice, and knocking on 10 second slips door.

Its going to take 35k (including the purchase price of a used late model LS1) as a bare minimum to put your car solidly and safely and reliably in the 10 second 1/4 mile.
At a minimum you will need

Chassis Reinforcements, Roll Cage (NHRA SPEC), New rear axle, Custom Tranny work, obvious motor work, not so obvious motor work, custom electronics, and you need to make it street legal. Its going to be a lot more involved than you think. If you cant do all this work yourself due to a lack of shop or tools (welder, engine hoist etc, figure on doubling the cost of all the modifications. A guy by me has 65k in a 2001 SS and he runs 11's. Granted it has a 5k paint job, but there is still a lot of work to put that car in the 10's.

Don't know how you can afford it being 18, but if you got the bucks more power to ya! I bought my Z at age 18, almost 21 now. Still making payments for another 3 years!

 

man do i love the LT4 myths..

lol

 

i love camaro's... thats my dream car, like i said. i don't want to be the fastest car out there... but i wanna spank some serious ***. its like, i wanna find out which years and models are the fastest, and which ones would produce more hp and run faster with modifications... i know i have a lot of studying to do, thats why im asking questions. so like... yeah, i just wanna buy the right car and do the right upgrades. thats why im asking for suggestions. should i start looking for a 97 lt4? or stick with a 01-02 ss and work on that. like i said, i'd be looking for the fastest year camaro in the 93-02 area and something that would take my upgrades and use all the power it's got. i thought maybe getting an 01 camaro ss would be a good idea, but my friend told me that i couldn't shoot as much spray in an ls1 as i could do in an lt1. thats why this topics here.. cuz i plan on doing a lot of motor work to get it high enough that it wont overheat on the street, and then spraying and supercharging it. god i must sound repetitive, lol

 

"Don't know how you can afford it being 18, but if you got the bucks more power to ya! I bought my Z at age 18, almost 21 now. Still making payments for another 3 years!"

lol, i may be 18, but i make 55 grand a year... that, and i have some money from a lawsuit against mickey d's for a slip and fall acident when i was little.

 

 

Is this the LS1 Lounge or the LS1 Tech Section?

Seems really difficult for anyone here to answer a question even remotely Technical.

Don't waste your time trying to find an LT4 Camaro SS. They are rare and you will still need boltons more headwork and a better cam profile to make it solidly into the elevens N/A. Besides those cars are still selling for $25,000 plus.

I really don't see how an LS1 differs from an LT1/LT4 when talking strength and reliablility when using nitrous oxide. Longivity is limited in any non forged internal motor weather alluminum or not. It's more about using it responsibly. Put a 75 to 100 shot on run colder plugs and only spray it when you need to and your motor should last quite a while weather LT1 or LS1.

An LT1/LT4 will bolt on to low 13's/high 12's, an LS1 will bolt on to low 12's/high 11's. Add a 100 shot to to the bolt on LT1 and you should run low 12's, Add a 100 shot to the bolt on LS1 and you should run low elevens.

Buy a 98-99 LS1 and that will be a good place to start.

 

thanks man, that helped.

my friend has a ws6 LT1 and he sprayed i think 250 shot or something like that in his engine. he got his car from his brother who used to be in GM Express... he did so much crap to that car that they don't know where to begin when talking about mods. that car hit in the high 10's at moroso once, spraying, i just don't know how much he shot. they did a lot of engine work on the car though... im sure they built it to take that much juice... is it possible to spray like 200 + shot of nos on an LS1? if so, what kind of work does the engine need to get that high, or even higher? this is a learning process for me... but i'd rather know all the details first before i get my car. most likely ill end up getting a 98 or 99... if i can find a 00 or 01 for cheaper cuz there's something wrong on the car that im going to end up replaceing anyways, ill head for that one.

 

Yeah.. and its NAWZ.. where is your ricer edict? LOL