Thanks for the replies, guys. Now, I Fully understand, but I am confused, LOL. First of all, my goal is at LEAST a street-driveable mid-10 second car. What would it take to get there? That is what I am planning to get to. Take a look at my mods, and add in FLP headers. I am ordering them in a couple more weeks. Now, assuming you have my car with my mods, and KNOWING you want mid 10's on a street car "Little or no weight reduction" where would you go next for mods? PLEASE leave a post. I'm open to ALL suggestions. I figured a SC with intercoolers and 8# of boost, and heads/cam would get me there. Maybe I'm wrong. I really don't know that much about mechanics wise. I do most of the work myself, so labor isn't too much of a problem. I read books, and have a few friends who know what they're doing, so they help me out. However, they really don't know much about modding, they simply know the mechanics. So please leave suggestions. Thanks.

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--Michael
'01 Camaro SS A4
Mods Include:
Superior 3.73 Gears, Jet Chip Racing Chip, K&N Air Filter, Free Ram Air Cut-out, Granatelli MAF, Whisper Induction Lid, Corsa Cat-back Exhaust, Auburn Carrier, Hypertech 160 Degree Thermostat, SLP Strut Tower Brace, Sub Frame Connectors, Throttle Body Bypass, Powerslot Slotted Rotors, Durastop Performance Brake Pads, B&M Deep Transmission pan, Dynamic Motorsports lower control arms.

Best 1/4: 13.192 @ 106.38MPH w/2.086 60' on GoodYear Eagle F1 tires.

Recent 1/4 run on 4/10/02: 13.502 with a 2.367 60' on 275x40ZR17 Dunlop SP sports, without the 160 thermostat, STB, SFC, or TB Bypass--With Some DR's, maybe run a 12.8, or 12.7? Fingers crossed. Headers coming soon.

See "Cammie" at http://members.cardomain.com/ozorowsky

 

youre correct...heads/cam and s/c will get you to where you want to be. many people have this combo and like it...they say its very streetable and when you want it to be...a beast.

 

It will get you there but if you are going to have the engine apart anyway you should really finish that bottom end on the car...Your setup will run sooo much better if you have it built for boost...lower compression and get where you need to be will get you a better time...You are talking about making a TON of power...O yea...12 bolt is going to be a must.

 

A 12 bolt is unquestionable. I am just going to do it last, unless this one breaks. Could someone please tell me EVERYTHING I should change in my engine "Exact specs" to get exactly where I want? I would GREATLY appreciate it if you could list everything. What do you mean about building up my bottom end? Thanks guys.

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--Michael
'01 Camaro SS A4
Mods Include:
Superior 3.73 Gears, Jet Chip Racing Chip, K&N Air Filter, Free Ram Air Cut-out, Granatelli MAF, Whisper Induction Lid, Corsa Cat-back Exhaust, Auburn Carrier, Hypertech 160 Degree Thermostat, SLP Strut Tower Brace, Sub Frame Connectors, Throttle Body Bypass, Powerslot Slotted Rotors, Durastop Performance Brake Pads, B&M Deep Transmission pan, Dynamic Motorsports lower control arms.

Best 1/4: 13.192 @ 106.38MPH w/2.086 60' on GoodYear Eagle F1 tires.

Recent 1/4 run on 4/10/02: 13.502 with a 2.367 60' on 275x40ZR17 Dunlop SP sports, without the 160 thermostat, STB, SFC, or TB Bypass--With Some DR's, maybe run a 12.8, or 12.7? Fingers crossed. Headers coming soon.

See "Cammie" at http://members.cardomain.com/ozorowsky

 

Oh, just so you know guys, I don't have a lot of money, but I will save whatever it takes to accomplish this. What I want is to have my car so that BASICALLY any car I stand next to on the road, I can easily walk away from. I am 21 right now, and I want to some day have a son, and my dream is to build this ultimate car, and when he gets older, he can drive "Dad's Hot Rod." That is why I am trying to complete this car, and then start saving for my house. I know most people would do that in reverse, but I have been dreaming about hitting mid-10's since I got my car. Thanks for the info. guys.

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--Michael
'01 Camaro SS A4
Mods Include:
Superior 3.73 Gears, Jet Chip Racing Chip, K&N Air Filter, Free Ram Air Cut-out, Granatelli MAF, Whisper Induction Lid, Corsa Cat-back Exhaust, Auburn Carrier, Hypertech 160 Degree Thermostat, SLP Strut Tower Brace, Sub Frame Connectors, Throttle Body Bypass, Powerslot Slotted Rotors, Durastop Performance Brake Pads, B&M Deep Transmission pan, Dynamic Motorsports lower control arms.

Best 1/4: 13.192 @ 106.38MPH w/2.086 60' on GoodYear Eagle F1 tires.

Recent 1/4 run on 4/10/02: 13.502 with a 2.367 60' on 275x40ZR17 Dunlop SP sports, without the 160 thermostat, STB, SFC, or TB Bypass--With Some DR's, maybe run a 12.8, or 12.7? Fingers crossed. Headers coming soon.

See "Cammie" at http://members.cardomain.com/ozorowsky

 

you want to know everything...no prob. its going to run up a huge bill, but here goes...
all prices are app.
either ATI or Vortech w/aftercooler...6k
stage 2 heads...2k
cam...800
lunati forged crank...2k
forged pistons...1k
forged pushrods...600-1k
intake (if you so choose)...600.

then you have installation and thats going to be ALOT! depends on where you get eveything installed, but you could easily see a 2k bill, probably more. GOOD LUCK!

 

What do you mean intake? The 2000 and up come with the ls6 intake..i currently have the ls6 intake
what are the positives and negatives of buying 50 piund fuel injectors now?


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--Michael
'01 Camaro SS A4
Mods Include:
Superior 3.73 Gears, Jet Chip Racing Chip, K&N Air Filter, Free Ram Air Cut-out, Granatelli MAF, Whisper Induction Lid, Corsa Cat-back Exhaust, Auburn Carrier, Hypertech 160 Degree Thermostat, SLP Strut Tower Brace, Sub Frame Connectors, Throttle Body Bypass, Powerslot Slotted Rotors, Durastop Performance Brake Pads, B&M Deep Transmission pan, Dynamic Motorsports lower control arms.

Best 1/4: 13.192 @ 106.38MPH w/2.086 60' on GoodYear Eagle F1 tires.

Recent 1/4 run on 4/10/02: 13.502 with a 2.367 60' on 275x40ZR17 Dunlop SP sports, without the 160 thermostat, STB, SFC, or TB Bypass--With Some DR's, maybe run a 12.8, or 12.7? Fingers crossed. Headers coming soon.

See "Cammie" at http://members.cardomain.com/ozorowsky

 

here's some good advise for ya.... find a setup someone else is already running, and copy them.
aside from that, to do anything like what your wanting to do effectively, you need to do some major research. you dont HAVE to run a forged crank. you dont HAVE to buy ported heads. you dont HAVE to buy forged pushrods... ect. ect. ect...
you need to know what this stuff is/does so that you can make up your own mind as to whether or not you want it.
jeremy

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'93 z28 m6 (Purple Pearl Metallic)
stock shortblock, 230/236 cam, mildly ported heads, hooker longtubes, csi waterpump, all the usual bolton stuff.....
7.98 @ 88.7mph 1.84 60' (1/8mi)

 

mid 10's street car.. 7.0L LS1 (resleeved for bore and stroked) would fit the bill nicely. It'll pull like a beast in all gears and all rpm's too.. and probably would be too much of a pain to maintain either.

I know ARE and MTI can build em for you. probably a few other places too.

You WILL need a new rearend and driveshaft.. why risking blwoing up the rear or driveshaft and slamming yoru car in the wall if your going to blow all this money on just the engine itself?!

Oh, and since the modifications are all internal engine mods, there's little to no way to tell its been done visually.. so you can greatly confuse and fustrate the competition when you show them whats under the hood. They'll probably accuse you of hiding nitrous. hehe



[This message has been edited by Ken S (edited September 04, 2002).]

 

my bad mike...i forgot you had a model with the ls6 intake...so "x" that off the list. however, i did leave out driveshaft and as you already mentioned, rear-end. id plan on dropping a solid 15k after everything is said and done.

 

Ahh gotta love the big dilema huh . You can look at Tbyrne's car and Ls1motorsports car. They're both setup to run serious times and I believe both are streetable. Have you put any thought on heads/cam/nitrous? Or bigger cubes/heads/cam? 427 cu in (oooh!)...good luck with your decision

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I am open to ALL suggestions. Bigger cubes would mean changing my engine, wouldn't it? What about a 7.0L, that is a new engine, isn't it? Not just mine modified, right? Time isn't a problem. I am in no rush to reach 10's, I just want to do it the cheapest, best way. So again, I ask which route would you guys go. I am pretty confident in doing the heads/cam first, then a supercharger, then change out my rearend, then some forged pistons, yada yada yada in that order. That is a long way away. I am TOTALLY looking forward to completing my project over time. So do you guys think boring out my engine is cheaper? What do you guys suggest. What would you do? Thanks a million.

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--Michael
'01 Camaro SS A4
Mods Include:
Superior 3.73 Gears, Jet Chip Racing Chip, K&N Air Filter, Free Ram Air Cut-out, Granatelli MAF, Whisper Induction Lid, Corsa Cat-back Exhaust, Auburn Carrier, Hypertech 160 Degree Thermostat, SLP Strut Tower Brace, Sub Frame Connectors, Throttle Body Bypass, Powerslot Slotted Rotors, Durastop Performance Brake Pads, B&M Deep Transmission pan, Dynamic Motorsports lower control arms.

Best 1/4: 13.192 @ 106.38MPH w/2.086 60' on GoodYear Eagle F1 tires.

Recent 1/4 run on 4/10/02: 13.502 with a 2.367 60' on 275x40ZR17 Dunlop SP sports, without the 160 thermostat, STB, SFC, or TB Bypass--With Some DR's, maybe run a 12.8, or 12.7? Fingers crossed. Headers coming soon.

See "Cammie" at http://members.cardomain.com/ozorowsky

 

7.0l LS1? Now that sounds like a plan when I manage to grenade my engine out of warranty. It is inevitable. I break stuff. Go with a blower first. Satin. Polished isn't any faster.

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2002 Formula, GMMG cat back /1983 Z28-sold

 

I like the bigger cubes (with forged internals) and heads/cam/nitrous to start off. Then add a blower later (while reducing your NOS shot).

The cheapest route - heads/cam/nitrous. That will easily get you in the 10s and still have a very streetable car!

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Email: eric@dynamicmotorsports.com

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WE WORK TOWARDS HELPING YOU, NOT TOWARDS MAKING MONEY!

 

o hell, just say f it all and buy the MTI 422 super-stroker.