my SS is a '99 and the window motor already went out in it and it's leaking oili mean WTF it's a lemon but it's fast a real factory freak. i want 2 get a saleen s281 or a roush stage 3, or a m3 anything but a camaro they don't hold up well at all

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Thus illustrates why Mustang outsells F-bodies, resulting in the death of the F-body. Hello GM engineering??? WTF!! Wait till the new Mach 1 comes out, then trade. Those look awesome.

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Little red light on the highway; big green light on the speedway, hey,hey, hey!

2002 Formula, GMMG cat back /1983 Z28-sold

 

Uhhh...unless you've had some other problems, I wouldn't really call your car a lemon. Both of the things you mentioned are rather minor. I've actually been quite pleased with my 99'. Anyways don't expect to take a step up in the quality department by going to a Mustang. They are about the same.

-Mike

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99 Onyx Black SS A4 #2373

BMR SFC's, BMR STB, BMR LCA's, FLP L/T's, Magnaflow cat-back, Direct-flo lid w/Holley filter, SLP bellows kit, TB bypass, polished MAF ends, ported and polished TB, SLP bow-tie grille, Sullivan pedals, MacEwen gauges w/ T/A bezel, Mike C's SS frc's,

 

When I replied I assumed that you have had many problems up to this latest issue. If not, there is no way that you will find a car that goes three years without a problem and even then only has such a minor problem.

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Little red light on the highway; big green light on the speedway, hey,hey, hey!

2002 Formula, GMMG cat back /1983 Z28-sold

 

shouldnt this be in the lounge since you arent asking for help, but merely stating that you are no longer happy with your car?

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Haha,you think a Mustang will be any better?You ever surf www.corral.net ?I think that's the address.Dude,all cars have minor problems.You have a 3 year old PERFORMANCE car and it has a window motor and a small oil leak??!!That's an AWESOME car!If you do get a Mustang then good luck with it.
Kevin

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[This message has been edited by nikkev (edited September 04, 2002).]

 

Dude dont get a mustang. Those problems are minor, I mean you have an awesome performance car. If you go to a mustang you will have to pay way more money than you have to, to get about the same performance that you get from your SS. I mean with the Roush or Saleen. Keep your car.

 

My diagnosis- New car fever WHOOHHOOOOOOOOO!

Been there

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Little red light on the highway; big green light on the speedway, hey,hey, hey!

2002 Formula, GMMG cat back /1983 Z28-sold

 

go get 'em killer!
jeremy

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'93 z28 m6 (Purple Pearl Metallic)
stock shortblock, 230/236 cam, mildly ported heads, hooker longtubes, csi waterpump, all the usual bolton stuff.....
7.98 @ 88.7mph 1.84 60' (1/8mi)

 

I understand what u guys r saying, but i used to have a '98 RS and it had the same problems i think it's with every camaro. i know gts and cobras r pieces of **** BUT the saleen and roush r tightas hell and i found a 1999 red saleen s281 w/ only 14k miles on it...i want it but i like my car and want to supe it up, but r camaros really tahtmuch better than mustangs? ur tellin' me i'm gna have the same problems?

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hey man. ok fine i dont have an ls1, but a 95z. had it for three years now. 2nd owner. havent had a single problem yet (knock on wood) unless you call regular wear and tear problems.(tires, brakes, etc.) the worst thing thats happened so far is the rubber on my windshield wiper ripped of from beeing stuck to the ice on the windshield. the previous owner hadnt had any problems either. nada. zip. zero. cant say that for NONE of the mustang guys i know (and there are a ton around here) be it 1, 2, 3 year old , it doesnt matter. they all have had some problem or other. even a guy i work with who beleives only japs make reliable cars, picked up a 2000 accord a month ago with like 30000 miles, from a dealer, extended warranty and all, and has already been back 3 (thats right )THREE times to get things fixed, the last one beeing his window got stuck. and dont let me get on those civics. oh, i also forgot to mention, my 7 year old headlight bulb burnt out also 2 months ago. those crapppy camaros. its unreal huh? by the way, its my second 95z, and the first only had the foglight burn out for the 2 years i had that one. anyway, good luck with your decision, but ill tell your future for you.......youll be back!

 

Every car is different. My 2000 SS needed the driver's cat replaced (under warranty). Two window motors on my mom's 99 Dodge Intrepid have already gone bad.

OK

Are they any better in quality than the Camaro? I've never owned a saleen or roush, but aren't they just tuned and modded stock GT's and Cobra's?

Money talks and Bullsh*t walks.

Great, throw a supercharger on your car, or a heads/cam package.

Not really.

Every car is different. I've never owned a roush or saleen, nor known anybody that has.



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2000 Camaro SS
A4, 3.23 gears, Black, ZR-1 chrome wheels, Zaino'd, tinted windows, stock for now

 

Saleens are nice but they fall apart. It is an expensive GT with a crappy steve/allen blower. The cheapest you can get one is 30,000. And if you want a good one try about 40,000-50,000, that is if you want to get rid of all the gt interior and brakes and so on. Plus I have 2 friends in ausin that have them and they have nothing but problems. As for the stage 3, nice but not nice enough. again very overpriced. A stage 2 is around 35,000, so you can guess what a stage 3 is, again about 55,000, drove one and they are overrated, but much faster than the s281. M3's are nice , my g/f is probably buying one, much better than an expensive GT. Anyways, if i were to get another mustang i would have to look into the 2003 mach 1 or an 03 cobra. Hell they are alot cheaper plus i have seen reviews of the mach 1 hitting 12's with just gears. I now how you feel about geting a new car, did the same in 2001 when i sold my 99 Gt for my 02 Z. Everyone is right though, on my 99 i went through a rear-end, 3 throwout bearings, paint defects, exhuast leak the day i bought it, and tranny probs. Every car has its problems. Damn i can't believe i am talking about mustangs, dammit GM bring back my f-body.

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'02 Red Z28, ebony leather, M6, T-tops, Trac. cont., hurst shifter
Borla (the expensive cut-out), Wisperlid W/K&N, FRA, Cags eliminator, Strange 4.10's, G2 Rear Girdle, Valv. Synthetic 10W-30, Redline gear oil, Fat hurst shift ****, Lead foot

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Alpine Screen, Orion xtr 800.4, xtrpro 1000, Kicker 12L7 in a milhouse, Focal polykev K2's, Focal utopia 6" audiom midrange.

 

Not to be a di**, but as for F-Bodies go, wasn't the only year a RS model was even available was '97, it was an anniversary model, also only a V6.....

Am i right....
My frined owned one about 2 years ago and I could almost swear it was a V6.....

Just my .02

Later,


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1994 Z28 M6 - Black w/ T-tops,
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