383 LT1 rough/low idle!
#1
383 LT1 rough/low idle!
Hi all,
I am having some trouble with the idle on my Z28 which I hope someone can atleast help point me in the right direction on where to start troubleshooting.
When I first start the car cold, the idle drops to about 500 RPM and will sit there and bounce around a little bit. If I hit the throttle a little bit and rev it up, the idle then jumps to 950 RPM and will idle pretty decently.
From there once I take off and drive around a little I have been experiencing some terrible idling. It drops down to about 500 RPM and then eventually will die if I do not repeatedly give it gas. Unlike when it is cold, reving it does not help, after I rev it, the RPM will drop back to about 500 RPM and it will eventually cut out.
I am in search of some help on where to start looking. I know about checking the TPS voltage, which should be correct, but I havent checked in about a year. I did the modification so I could adjust the position by slotting the mounting holes.
My set screw on the TB is cracked open quite far (almost all the way the screw will allow), can this be part of the cause? Should I drop the set screw back to closed off and then procede from there on adjustments?
Thanks for all the help!
I am having some trouble with the idle on my Z28 which I hope someone can atleast help point me in the right direction on where to start troubleshooting.
When I first start the car cold, the idle drops to about 500 RPM and will sit there and bounce around a little bit. If I hit the throttle a little bit and rev it up, the idle then jumps to 950 RPM and will idle pretty decently.
From there once I take off and drive around a little I have been experiencing some terrible idling. It drops down to about 500 RPM and then eventually will die if I do not repeatedly give it gas. Unlike when it is cold, reving it does not help, after I rev it, the RPM will drop back to about 500 RPM and it will eventually cut out.
I am in search of some help on where to start looking. I know about checking the TPS voltage, which should be correct, but I havent checked in about a year. I did the modification so I could adjust the position by slotting the mounting holes.
My set screw on the TB is cracked open quite far (almost all the way the screw will allow), can this be part of the cause? Should I drop the set screw back to closed off and then procede from there on adjustments?
Thanks for all the help!
#3
What RPM did the tuner set the idle to? A4 or M6 - that will help determine the correct idle setting?
Sounds like the IAC motor is not responding, or the IAC passage in the TB is plugged. Did it ever idle correctly? If it did idle correctly earlier with the same setup and tune as you have currently, that would rule out tuning problems, related to an agressive cam.
You really need to provide more details on the engine mods.
Scanning/datalogging it is pretty much the only way to go. That allows you to examine the TPS voltage, IAC counts, idle air flow, coolant temp sensor, MAP, timing, etc, all of which can affect the idle.
Sounds like the IAC motor is not responding, or the IAC passage in the TB is plugged. Did it ever idle correctly? If it did idle correctly earlier with the same setup and tune as you have currently, that would rule out tuning problems, related to an agressive cam.
You really need to provide more details on the engine mods.
Scanning/datalogging it is pretty much the only way to go. That allows you to examine the TPS voltage, IAC counts, idle air flow, coolant temp sensor, MAP, timing, etc, all of which can affect the idle.
#4
What RPM did the tuner set the idle to? A4 or M6 - that will help determine the correct idle setting?
Sounds like the IAC motor is not responding, or the IAC passage in the TB is plugged. Did it ever idle correctly? If it did idle correctly earlier with the same setup and tune as you have currently, that would rule out tuning problems, related to an agressive cam.
You really need to provide more details on the engine mods.
Scanning/datalogging it is pretty much the only way to go. That allows you to examine the TPS voltage, IAC counts, idle air flow, coolant temp sensor, MAP, timing, etc, all of which can affect the idle.
Sounds like the IAC motor is not responding, or the IAC passage in the TB is plugged. Did it ever idle correctly? If it did idle correctly earlier with the same setup and tune as you have currently, that would rule out tuning problems, related to an agressive cam.
You really need to provide more details on the engine mods.
Scanning/datalogging it is pretty much the only way to go. That allows you to examine the TPS voltage, IAC counts, idle air flow, coolant temp sensor, MAP, timing, etc, all of which can affect the idle.
The car did idle nicely at one point, even after the new tune.
My mods are as follows
ENGINE
383 stroker
Scatt 9000 crank
6.0" rods
Srp forged flat top pistons
Race prepped and race balanced using race quality bearings
Custom Comp cams camshaft(nitrous stick)
CAM SPECS
Gross lift .540 intake and .562 exaust
duration @ 50 ... intake..242 and exhaust..248
Lobe seperation 113.0
MISC. SPECS
Stock casting heads
Cut for 2.02 * 1.60 manley sportsman valves
Comp Cams 650 lift springs
Mildly ported
Bowls smothed not cut into
Intake smothed not cut into
Vaccuum canister (brakes)
Mezerie electric water pump
Cloyes true double roller timing set
Comp Cams lifters and pushrods
IGNITION
Taylor custom over the valve cover wires
Billet wire looms
NGK TR6 plugs
MSD Digital 6 Ignition
INDUCTION
Holley 58mm Throttle body
Arizona Speed and Marine CAI
Trick Flow ceramic coated intake elbow
Stock Ported mass air meter
EXHAUST
Flowmaster 40 series
Custom Y pipe
Hooker long tubes Jet Hot coated
FUEL SYSTEM
42lb Racetronix injectors
255 ltr Motorsport in tank pump
Adjustable pressure regulator
NITROUS
Nitrous Works Wet set up
Nozzle injection
Custom electrical for safety
75 to 175 adjustable
Last edited by camz383; 07-28-2009 at 11:30 AM.
#5
You say that the coolant sensor can affect the idle??? I may have just found the culprit! I have a low coolant light on, yet my coolant is full...
A bad sensor can cause the rough idle??
A bad sensor can cause the rough idle??
Last edited by camz383; 07-28-2009 at 11:32 AM.
#6
The low coolant light is driven by a sensor on the radiator. It doesn't report to the PCM, only to the light on the dash. Unfortunately, it isn't the problem in this case.
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