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AI200cc stock bottom end dyno results, 429rwhp with a miss

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Old 01-03-2008, 08:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Javier97Z28
Either I got special heads or you got dud heads from LE
Duds........
I was wondering if he had ever done a leak down with all the cracked guides.......had to have several problems. But without getting into that atleast its making power now. Should run if he can drive it , if not don't post any numbers. I hate being disapointed
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Old 01-03-2008, 08:14 AM
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Nice numbers, but I would expect such with a 6 speed, stock 10-bolt and street tires from AI.

It should be a blast to drive.
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Originally Posted by dangalla
thats the point
That's what I thought, just trying to be polite about it. Wish I could try his set-up on my stock shortblock, it's still very healthy.
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Originally Posted by Z-RATED94
That's what I thought, just trying to be polite about it. Wish I could try his set-up on my stock shortblock, it's still very healthy.
you can. call up AI
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Old 01-03-2008, 12:21 PM
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Originally Posted by SS MPSTR
you can. call up AI
To many things to do for next season. Need a built trans, nitrous DS, back brakes, front tires for the street rims, re-tune with the nano system, shaft mounted rockers, etc. Let alone I need money for a 5 or 6 point bar.
I did pick up a used shortblock for a future nitrous project though, so you never know. Maybe I will give them a call, if money permits.
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Old 01-04-2008, 09:12 AM
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Looks like this set up is working real well for you.

Not sure if the AI cam is larger than the BRE 224 duration cam or not, only Speed Demon knows for sure.

You probably actually checked PR length and geometry this time as opposed to on the LE heads. You told me you just used the same PR's you had before and did not know why it would be different, I told you anytime you change valve length, head gasket thickness, valve job depth, etc, it will effect PR length and this is just assuming it was correct before the LE heads were installed. Since it was not checked before this, who knows how far was off even before the new heads.

You can see by the pic on your photo bucket that the rocker is sitting off to the side of the valve on the LE heads. Guides are not gonna last long like that, even with the correct PR length (that you did not have).

Just wanted to point out some variances in stories.

The 2 LE head intake ports measured where 215.x and 216.x cc although that # keeps growing as Speed Demon tells the story.

Somewhere between the new heads, new cam (not sure if it is larger than 224 duration or not), new oil pan, proper rocker/PR geometry and tuning, you were able to find 24 HP over the old set up.

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i agree there is horse power in the pr lenght and the pan. valvetrain for sure.
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Old 01-04-2008, 09:41 AM
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Originally Posted by NightTrain66
The 2 LE head intake ports measured where 215.x and 216.x cc although that # keeps growing as Speed Demon tells the story.
IIRC they were verified by a third party to be ~218 +/- ...maybe your equipment is off as if it makes any difference anyway
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Originally Posted by NightTrain66
The 2 LE head intake ports measured where 215.x and 216.x cc although that # keeps growing as Speed Demon tells the story.
do you care to exlain that, on your site you advertise 205 and thats what you told me on the phone

although i do agree with everything else you said, pr lenght and geometry are key elements
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It don't make power if you can't fit your fist down the intake runner.
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Originally Posted by tireburnin
It don't make power if you can't fit your fist down the intake runner.
People make more power with a bone stock head than you will ever make
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Originally Posted by mdacton
People make more power with a bone stock head than you will ever make
Who?
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Old 01-04-2008, 11:23 AM
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Originally Posted by CANTONRACER
Who?
Plenty, you know these heads stock are light years ahead of what they had in the 70's and 80's......and people made power with less then
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Originally Posted by mdacton
People make more power with a bone stock head than you will ever make

Lol perhaps you missed the sarcasm. I didn't put a winky smily after my post but I thought people could draw the inference that 218cc heads may not be the best performers and might fall into the category of "bigger is better" mentality.
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Originally Posted by mdacton
Plenty, you know these heads stock are light years ahead of what they had in the 70's and 80's......and people made power with less then
Who is making more power with a bone stock LT1 head. I am not talking about super stockers...nor boosted.
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