Anyone here running LPE CNC heads?
#1
Anyone here running LPE CNC heads?
Before this turns into "go LE etc etc" I know he does great work, but I like CNC and if it came to hand porting I'd rather do it myself. I've done quite a few heads in my day, but I like the accuracy of cnc and just want to get some info.
Anyone have experience running LPE heads or any other CNC head?
My plan this winter is to either build a forged 383 on a stand to replace my current hyper 355, or just put a good H/C on my current engine.
The car is 97% daily driver and spends 75% of the time in traffic going no faster than 35mph. I'm not looking for insane amount of power, just a fun car to drive on the streets or take to the track when I want to (road course, or drag strip)
Anyone have experience running LPE heads or any other CNC head?
My plan this winter is to either build a forged 383 on a stand to replace my current hyper 355, or just put a good H/C on my current engine.
The car is 97% daily driver and spends 75% of the time in traffic going no faster than 35mph. I'm not looking for insane amount of power, just a fun car to drive on the streets or take to the track when I want to (road course, or drag strip)
#2
If that's your goal then why spend 2k for LPE heads? I have an opinion but you said not to use Lloyd as an example. So how about using your skills and do it yourself, and save a boat load of money?
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#3
For me, I'm lazy these days but if it comes down to it, I'll open the bottom drawer of my tool cabinet where all my porting tools are and get cracking.
I just wanted to see if anyone had used the LPE heads or any other CNC ported stockers.
I just wanted to see if anyone had used the LPE heads or any other CNC ported stockers.
#5
Shop that built my engine had a complete catalog of LT1 head flow tests.... same flow bench, same operator, same accessories, etc. The LPE LT4 CNC heads were just about the best "out of the box" heads they had flowed. They were using them to build 1,000+HP forced induction LT1's. I bought a set of heads from CNC Cylinder Heads in Pinellas Park, FL. The intake flow was very good, and when flowed with their matching ported LT4 intake, actually showed a 3% increase in flow. However, the exhaust flow was very poor, due to too much material being hogged out.
#6
I run LPE "big valve" (2.00/1.56 valves) LT1 heads...Paired with the LPE 211/219 cam I ran high 11s at 115 for a long time...I had E.B. Porting (Eric Bradby) re-port them in 2005 and went with a 226/234 custom cam from Joe Overton and run the times/mph in my sig...Eric sai the LPE heads were very respectable heads unlike others he's gone behind...He found a bit more air...but said the work LPE did looked very good...
No doublt the stuff is pricey...
--Alan
No doublt the stuff is pricey...
--Alan
#8
Contrary to popular belief LPE's cylinder head prices are comparable to others. I run the LT4 CNC heads. Ran a best of 12.0 @ 115 w/ a 1.75 60' time. Mods were- LPE LT4 heads/intake, CCHiTech 1.6 rockers, 211/219 cam, LPE hardened pushrods/guideplates, LPE 1.43dia springs, Hooker LT's w/ ORY, 3.73 gears, ET streets, Strange 12-bolt. Car's raceweight was 3750 including stock SS 17" wheels/tires up front and 16" wheels in the back.
With this cam I had a dual cat y-pipe and passed e-check w/ flying colors when OBDII was still required to do a sniffer. The idle was nearly stock and surprised many who I raced.
I've since then built a SR396 and have my LPE heads on this engine. Hasn't been tuned or ran yet, however... It'll be interesting to see if these heads choke the engine or if they'll hold up well. I ran my LPE heads w/ an 847 cam and it was making power past 6200rpm before valve float set in.
If you want all around drivablity w/ decent power the LPE setup works extremely well. It's just a matter of wheither or not you want a stockish sounding idle or something a little more aggressive.
With this cam I had a dual cat y-pipe and passed e-check w/ flying colors when OBDII was still required to do a sniffer. The idle was nearly stock and surprised many who I raced.
I've since then built a SR396 and have my LPE heads on this engine. Hasn't been tuned or ran yet, however... It'll be interesting to see if these heads choke the engine or if they'll hold up well. I ran my LPE heads w/ an 847 cam and it was making power past 6200rpm before valve float set in.
If you want all around drivablity w/ decent power the LPE setup works extremely well. It's just a matter of wheither or not you want a stockish sounding idle or something a little more aggressive.
#9
Right now track times to me are just a bonus. I think what I am really after is a useable powerband for mainly a street car. I've had the car since March and I think I have taken it to 5000rpm 3 times in first gear and that was just in the past 2 weeks and I generally shut down before 90mph. High Revs just don't really appeal to me because I just really don't get on the car that much. I like the low end grunt I have now, but just want to up the ante a bit for toting my groceries around.
My 305 cam is not too choppy, but noticeable enough to where I like it. I'm sure it is too small to run on a set of ported heads though.
My 305 cam is not too choppy, but noticeable enough to where I like it. I'm sure it is too small to run on a set of ported heads though.
#10
I bought a set of heads from CNC Cylinder Heads in Pinellas Park, FL. The intake flow was very good, and when flowed with their matching ported LT4 intake, actually showed a 3% increase in flow. However, the exhaust flow was very poor, due to too much material being hogged out.
Last I heard CNC was out of business.
#11
Contrary to popular belief LPE's cylinder head prices are comparable to others. I run the LT4 CNC heads. Ran a best of 12.0 @ 115 w/ a 1.75 60' time. Mods were- LPE LT4 heads/intake, CCHiTech 1.6 rockers, 211/219 cam, LPE hardened pushrods/guideplates, LPE 1.43dia springs, Hooker LT's w/ ORY, 3.73 gears, ET streets, Strange 12-bolt. Car's raceweight was 3750 including stock SS 17" wheels/tires up front and 16" wheels in the back.
With this cam I had a dual cat y-pipe and passed e-check w/ flying colors when OBDII was still required to do a sniffer. The idle was nearly stock and surprised many who I raced.
I've since then built a SR396 and have my LPE heads on this engine. Hasn't been tuned or ran yet, however... It'll be interesting to see if these heads choke the engine or if they'll hold up well. I ran my LPE heads w/ an 847 cam and it was making power past 6200rpm before valve float set in.
If you want all around drivablity w/ decent power the LPE setup works extremely well. It's just a matter of wheither or not you want a stockish sounding idle or something a little more aggressive.
With this cam I had a dual cat y-pipe and passed e-check w/ flying colors when OBDII was still required to do a sniffer. The idle was nearly stock and surprised many who I raced.
I've since then built a SR396 and have my LPE heads on this engine. Hasn't been tuned or ran yet, however... It'll be interesting to see if these heads choke the engine or if they'll hold up well. I ran my LPE heads w/ an 847 cam and it was making power past 6200rpm before valve float set in.
If you want all around drivablity w/ decent power the LPE setup works extremely well. It's just a matter of wheither or not you want a stockish sounding idle or something a little more aggressive.
One thing I might point out though, a set of LE2's and the right cam (custom slash small) would probably have the same results and cost a far less, if that fits sandmans bill. Just my opinion though.
#12
The thing about the cnc stuff is most of it does not flow what they "claim" it does. If I'm spending 2 grand I want a good port job. Eric is top notch in my book
#13
Well, I'm not above sending the heads to someone who knows the LT1 heads. I've ported nothing but 4 and 6cyl chrysler/Mitsu heads. I always made good numbers, but it was after doing a few and learning what worked and what didn't.
Any opinions on AI? I just came across their site today as well and if I'm paying someone to do this, I want to make sure I get all my bases covered.
Any opinions on AI? I just came across their site today as well and if I'm paying someone to do this, I want to make sure I get all my bases covered.
#15
Well, I'm not above sending the heads to someone who knows the LT1 heads. I've ported nothing but 4 and 6cyl chrysler/Mitsu heads. I always made good numbers, but it was after doing a few and learning what worked and what didn't.
Any opinions on AI? I just came across their site today as well and if I'm paying someone to do this, I want to make sure I get all my bases covered.
Any opinions on AI? I just came across their site today as well and if I'm paying someone to do this, I want to make sure I get all my bases covered.