B4C Police Interceptor
08-17-2003, 04:30 PM
#16
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The newer B4C Camaros are standard Z28's without badges. My neighboor drives one for the State Patrol. I love all of the talk about chips. Especially from the Mustang guys they really think there old patrol Mustangs are something!
09-07-2003, 12:20 PM
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Originally posted by RKB4C
Dan Oldham, I have another - a dk purple '95 B4C with 19K miles on it now. Never in service.
Maybe we should start a club...
Dan Oldham, I have another - a dk purple '95 B4C with 19K miles on it now. Never in service.
Maybe we should start a club...
09-07-2003, 01:46 PM
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For 2002 (and I suspect the other years with LS1s, but I'm not sure of them), the only difference between the Z and the B4C was the badges delete, color matched top, 1LE lower control arms, and the options were packaged differently. You could get leather, and could not get T-tops on the B4C. 125 of the 2002s were M6 equipped.
Same alternator, same engine and programming, brakes, etc. B4C is a package for the Camaro though, and does not have Z28 on the option code list on the door panel.
Scott Settlemire confirmed the above. Since I had both, and was curious, I went over both build sheets with a microscope. As I should have expected, Scott was right.
Just recently sold the loaded Silver M6 B4C. Only had 38 miles on it.
Same alternator, same engine and programming, brakes, etc. B4C is a package for the Camaro though, and does not have Z28 on the option code list on the door panel.
Scott Settlemire confirmed the above. Since I had both, and was curious, I went over both build sheets with a microscope. As I should have expected, Scott was right.
Just recently sold the loaded Silver M6 B4C. Only had 38 miles on it.
09-08-2003, 04:47 PM
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Originally posted by ArrestMeRedZ
For 2002 (and I suspect the other years with LS1s, but I'm not sure of them), the only difference between the Z and the B4C was the badges delete, color matched top, 1LE lower control arms, and the options were packaged differently. You could get leather, and could not get T-tops on the B4C. 125 of the 2002s were M6 equipped.
Same alternator, same engine and programming, brakes, etc. B4C is a package for the Camaro though, and does not have Z28 on the option code list on the door panel.
Scott Settlemire confirmed the above. Since I had both, and was curious, I went over both build sheets with a microscope. As I should have expected, Scott was right.
Just recently sold the loaded Silver M6 B4C. Only had 38 miles on it.
For 2002 (and I suspect the other years with LS1s, but I'm not sure of them), the only difference between the Z and the B4C was the badges delete, color matched top, 1LE lower control arms, and the options were packaged differently. You could get leather, and could not get T-tops on the B4C. 125 of the 2002s were M6 equipped.
Same alternator, same engine and programming, brakes, etc. B4C is a package for the Camaro though, and does not have Z28 on the option code list on the door panel.
Scott Settlemire confirmed the above. Since I had both, and was curious, I went over both build sheets with a microscope. As I should have expected, Scott was right.
Just recently sold the loaded Silver M6 B4C. Only had 38 miles on it.
RKB4C posts
an Oldham, I have another - a dk purple '95 B4C with 19K miles on it now. Never in service.Maybe we should start a club...
Sounds like a plan, RKB4C. If you're interested, just shoot me an email at RatedZ@aol.com or HotCammedB4C@aol.com.
09-08-2003, 06:12 PM
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Well, this car came with every piece of paper to authenticate the B4C which you could imagine - build sheet, sticker, dealer invoice, etc. etc.
I'm sure most police depts wouldn't order the leather but the guy who originally purchased mine did!
Next time you're in the Chicago area, stop by to see it.
I'm sure most police depts wouldn't order the leather but the guy who originally purchased mine did!
Next time you're in the Chicago area, stop by to see it.
09-08-2003, 06:33 PM
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B4C Pkg (according to my sticker) consists of:
5.7 Liter V8
6 spd manual
A/C
dual exhaust
16" alum wheels
P245/50ZR16 S/B rad tires
4 wheel disc brakes
engine oil cooler
limited slip rear axle
3.42 rear axle ratio
140 amp alternator
ride and handling suspension system
Add to that other options:
delco-bose
LEATHER BUCKET SEATS (option 122 - graphite leather)
p/w
power driver side seat
cruise
pdl
rwd
keyless remote
twin elect sport mirrors
fog lamps
body side moldings
power hatch release
carpeted floor mats
Same options show up on build sheet and GM vehicle inquiry sheet (which the dealer ran for my VIN# when I first had some fluids changed out.
So you're right - leather wasn't part of B4C package - but that doesn't mean you couldn't get leather --- if you could get one at all!
5.7 Liter V8
6 spd manual
A/C
dual exhaust
16" alum wheels
P245/50ZR16 S/B rad tires
4 wheel disc brakes
engine oil cooler
limited slip rear axle
3.42 rear axle ratio
140 amp alternator
ride and handling suspension system
Add to that other options:
delco-bose
LEATHER BUCKET SEATS (option 122 - graphite leather)
p/w
power driver side seat
cruise
pdl
rwd
keyless remote
twin elect sport mirrors
fog lamps
body side moldings
power hatch release
carpeted floor mats
Same options show up on build sheet and GM vehicle inquiry sheet (which the dealer ran for my VIN# when I first had some fluids changed out.
So you're right - leather wasn't part of B4C package - but that doesn't mean you couldn't get leather --- if you could get one at all!
09-08-2003, 06:51 PM
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I souldn't have made that post. If you have the documention, then it's real. I had also heard a private citizen couldn't get a B4C, and also have heard the opposite, depending on the dealer. Another questionable point was the 6-speed. Obviously a cop wouldn't want manual, having enough things on his mind during a chase. It all comes back to the private citizen being able to order one of these packages, which I think is positive.
09-08-2003, 07:19 PM
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Originally posted by anaik
I souldn't have made that post. If you have the documention, then it's real. I had also heard a private citizen couldn't get a B4C, and also have heard the opposite, depending on the dealer. Another questionable point was the 6-speed. Obviously a cop wouldn't want manual, having enough things on his mind during a chase. It all comes back to the private citizen being able to order one of these packages, which I think is positive.
I souldn't have made that post. If you have the documention, then it's real. I had also heard a private citizen couldn't get a B4C, and also have heard the opposite, depending on the dealer. Another questionable point was the 6-speed. Obviously a cop wouldn't want manual, having enough things on his mind during a chase. It all comes back to the private citizen being able to order one of these packages, which I think is positive.
I purchased mine used with 28,400 miles on it. Mine was never in service. I thought about purchasing a 2002 model, but if I were to get a 2002 Camaro, I would have wanted T-Tops. Obviously, that would leave out the option of getting a B4C.
The ONLY ways to get B4Cs brand new is if for some reason a particular law enforcement agency can't take delivery (for whatever reason). In this case, the cars ARE sold as new cars on dealership lots.
B4Cs aren't commonplace for the public to own, but it's not as difficult to obtain one as you may think. You could get them on "used car" lots, or you can also get them at police auctions. For matter of fact, a 1996 B4C just auctioned off in Michigan, I believe it was, at $3500. HOWEVER, this car was obviously in service. In this case, it probably had the stuffing beat out of it, but on the other hand, law enforcement cars are pretty well-maintained, as they obviously need to be.
My B4C currently has 141,600 miles on it. It's obviously got some little niggling problems, but that's to be expected with that many miles on it. That's okay though, because I love the car! "Rare" or not, the car was meant to be driven, and that's exactly what I'm going to do with it!
09-08-2003, 07:23 PM
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No problem with your post...
I also have a 1994/1995 "Popular Mechanics" article about these "Cop Cars". It basically challenged a private citizen to try to get a B4C 'cause the article said "it couldn't be done, you had to have a fleet # to order!"
The previous owner took that as a challenge, went dealer-to-dealer, almost gave up and bought a Z28, until he was tipped off and told whom to order from.
He would have bought t-tops, too, but was afraid the deal would be questioned by GM and fall through.
I also have a 1994/1995 "Popular Mechanics" article about these "Cop Cars". It basically challenged a private citizen to try to get a B4C 'cause the article said "it couldn't be done, you had to have a fleet # to order!"
The previous owner took that as a challenge, went dealer-to-dealer, almost gave up and bought a Z28, until he was tipped off and told whom to order from.
He would have bought t-tops, too, but was afraid the deal would be questioned by GM and fall through.
