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Which is better - CAI or SS Hood Airbox??

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Old 03-01-2004, 06:47 PM
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I'm not sayin you don't know your stuff as far as either is concerned,but proof is proof.Not personal belief.Sorry for gettin an attitude.Nuff said.
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I apologise as well.
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Old 03-01-2004, 07:10 PM
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Originally posted by Sandman_97Z

Its not about the number of "turns", per se... its about the FLOW.

And yes there is proof....its called laws of fluid dynamics....talk to me when you've studied them.
I'd love to see the flow charts please.

you do know that jsut because there is a bend doesnt mean that its worse flowing right?

You do know that perfectly smooth will flow slower and worse then if the surface is a bit rough.
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Old 03-01-2004, 07:24 PM
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I'd personally make the ram air functional...whats to point to the hood unless you have the air box to go with it? Don't want to look like a mustang with a fake scoop do you?
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hey dip****s learn to spell and dont argue help each other out!
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Old 03-01-2004, 07:56 PM
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Originally posted by Xride
I'd love to see the flow charts please.
That right there tells me you have no idea what youre talking about.

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you do know that jsut because there is a bend doesnt mean that its worse flowing right?
As a matter of fact it does. Every single bend and narrowing of pipe constitutes a head loss in the flow equation. Period.

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You do know that perfectly smooth will flow slower and worse then if the surface is a bit rough.
Where once did we talk about the roughness of the inside of the tubing?

Let me guess....you have the SS setup on your car, right?
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Old 03-01-2004, 08:26 PM
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I researched this as well a year ago or so.. I cam to the conclusion with the help of people here that the normal CAI is better, picks up colder dense air!
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Old 03-01-2004, 08:41 PM
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maybe im just stupid and not understanding what you are saying...but why do you keep saying ram air is a myth and isnt real...not calling you out...just asking cause i have a ram air hood and box on a formula so i was wondering why it was a "myth"
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Old 03-01-2004, 08:52 PM
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Originally posted by My95Z
I researched this as well a year ago or so.. I cam to the conclusion with the help of people here that the normal CAI is better, picks up colder dense air!
how can you have colder air then outside?
I have run a temp probe INSIDE after the MAF kinda where the dong part is.
it was the SAME temp as outside.

so how can you get colder air?


good read on ram air
http://www.vetteguru.com/ramair/
its just a cold air.
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Old 03-01-2004, 09:08 PM
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wow...it makes sense now...so would another type of cai be more efficent than the "ram air" on my car....or is it a mute point since they are both drawing air from a colder source than the stock shrouded intake?
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Old 03-01-2004, 09:30 PM
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Originally posted by BC94Formula
wow...it makes sense now...so would another type of cai be more efficent than the "ram air" on my car....or is it a mute point since they are both drawing air from a colder source than the stock shrouded intake?
its a mute point
they both suck the same temp air,and the same rate.


I'm going to dyno on the 27th of march, I will dyno one run open at the MAF, see what it runs.
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nice info...thanks...this is gonna be a fun one to bring up next time someone says something about the ram air
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Old 03-01-2004, 10:52 PM
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Back when my car had a naturally aspirated 383, it made 452rwhp, so I don't think it's 'that' bad.

Yes, the SS airbox has more bends than a standard CAI, but it also doesn't have to deal with the pinch point between the radiator and ABS.

To each his own.
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Old 03-02-2004, 09:54 AM
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Originally posted by INTMD8
Yes, the SS airbox has more bends than a standard CAI, but it also doesn't have to deal with the pinch point between the radiator and ABS.
True, but the SS airbox routing has its own pinch, or flattened spot if you will....

And yeah, "Ram Air" is just another form of CAI.... If you really think about it, the concept of 'ramming" air into the engine sounds a lot like boost which is absolutely not possible at automobile speeds.....**** even if you ha no hood and just hoked up an open cone to your throttle body, you still wouldnt actually be "ramming" any air.

....not getting into it at all.....just an FYI
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Old 03-02-2004, 10:25 AM
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Originally posted by Sandman_97Z
True, but the SS airbox routing has its own pinch, or flattened spot if you will....


I jsut went out to look to make sure, and theres nothing to sugest a "pinch" at all. I think the part with the smallest area opening is the MAF.
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