NuMbNuTs670

When ever I see a pic of someone's engine bay they have that take off. How is that done?

hazard2k

That black box is the traction control thing. Its only on some cars, thats why you dont see it on everybody else's car.

n2oCamaro

To remove it, you have to replace your throttle and cruise control (if equiped) cables with cables for a non-traction control car. Then have the traction control programmed out in the PCM.

JBird33

Or just turn it off, like I do when I wanna have fun!

eagleknight97

If you want to keep your ABS, its not that simple. And im not sure if it has even been figured out how to sucessfully remove your traction and keep ABS. If anyone knows, please, PLEASE feel free to chime in.

stereomandan

Yes, when I ordered my Camaro, I saw the "Traction Control" option. No way in h3ll I wanted that! My car has every option, EXCEPT traction control.

Dan

n2oCamaro

Uhh, I removed mine and still have ABS. I assume it is in the programming as I didn't do anything special. Bryan at PCMforless did my base tune and I had him turn off the TC. I will email Byan and see if he does anything special. I don't see how it would that hard since when you turn off the TC with the switch, the ABS still works.

eagleknight97

I remeber someone on here was buying new ABS control module things and he still couldnt get it to work. But if you still definetely have ABS, and simply replaced the cables and got a tune, then hell, thats awesome!

eagleknight97

Oh, OBD-1 or OBD-II, cuz I think that had something to do with it, maybe.

n2oCamaro

It is OBD1. That is a good point. I don't know if there is a difference between 1 and 2 concerning ABS. Hopefully Bryan will chime in and shed some light on this. I emailed him earlier and he replied with this. "The ABS is a separate computer from the PCM. So as long as it is still there the ABS functions normally."

PipesTA

What all did you do to remove your TCS? I have a 95 T/A and want to get rid of the TCS. Did you just change the throttle and cruse cables and get it tuned out? If so then that's awesome. Thanks

n2oCamaro

Thats it

BlackLT1_TX

I just removed the cruise cable. (dont use it much anyways), I then took off the TCS box, and everythign connected to it. Then I put in the new throttle cable, and my ABS still works fine. (TCS off) is always on the dash though.

It cost me like 13.00, and now I can get the drivers side valve cover off in like 30 seconds. The engine bay looks alot cleaner.

eagleknight97

Yeah, I did a little more research and OBD-1 cars and OBD-II cars have a COMPLETELY different ABS module, so the affect of removing the traction control is very different on the different ones. Would it be possible however, to simply make everything think that the TCS is still there, but it not be? Like remove it, but place some kind of resistor or something in there so the comp and everything thinks that its still there?