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Old 02-06-2005, 11:42 AM
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Re: Brutal Question.....

Originally Posted by unvc92camarors
i thought it was the other way around
you wanted to make it as easy for the air to get in as possible, and for the exhaust it didn't really matter
Nope. The typical though process is that a slightly rough surface on the intake side will cause a minal amount of turbulence but enough to help mix the air/fuel better. On the exhaust side and the combustion chambers, if they're polished then they'll supposedly be more resistant to carbon build up.

But, as SStrokerAce pointed out, you can't avoid carbon build up, and "the surface of the port doesn't mean dick."
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Old 02-06-2005, 11:46 AM
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Re: Brutal Question.....

Originally Posted by ShawnMacAnanny
Mcdonald's food is twice as unhealthy as Wendy's food. People that eat there regularly are fatter. Fatter people need to breathe more. They also need to drink more, hence the larger straw. McDonald's knows it, that's why they engineered the plus sized straw.
But if what you're saying is correct, then the McDonalds people would not be able to effectively utilize the enhanced capacity of the larger cross section in the Mcdonalds straw, and subsequently would run out of breath trying to get a satisfying drink. Meanwhile the Wendys eater would be happily sipping his beverage of choice in just the right amounts because his lung capacity can effectively draw in the right amount of beverage through the thinner straw.


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Re: Brutal Question.....

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But if what you're saying is correct, then the McDonalds people would not be able to effectively utilize the enhanced capacity of the larger cross section in the Mcdonalds straw, and subsequently would run out of breath trying to get a satisfying drink. Meanwhile the Wendys eater would be happily sipping his beverage of choice in just the right amounts because his lung capacity can effectively draw in the right amount of beverage through the thinner straw.


The Wendy's straw would not be able to carry as large a capacity at a given velocity. Flowing 262cfm through the Wendy's straw would cause it to reach critical levels of sidewall pressure. This straw could rupture at any time. The Mcdonald's straw could flow approximately 337cfm before it's structural integrity was compromised.

Should a heathly eater with both the lung capacity and stamina required to efficiently use the larger diameter straw, dine at McDonald's, he will be much more satisfied with his beverage. This is Natural Selection at it's best in the chain restaurant business. If you aren't heathly enough to ingest your drink with the speed and capacity for which it was deisned, subsequently you lose weigh in excersizing your fluid intake limits. Eventually they will progress to safe levels where you maintain and control the levels of liquid you consume.

The straw is not a limiting factor, it is an area for improvement. Your body either evolves to accept the new capacities, or you die from dehydration. "Two mice fell into a bucket of cream. The first mouse quickly gave up and drown. The second mouse paddled and churned until that cream turned into butter and he was able to climb out"
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Old 02-06-2005, 02:51 PM
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Originally Posted by SStrokerAce
Actually most times it's just porting.

Companies like HVH charge a extra fee for Polishing ports. Guys like Phil at Ai, Lloyd, Craig at GTP and Larry Meaux never "polish" ports they only port the heads. Shape is more important than what it looks like.

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air will move faster over a smooth surface, compared to a not smooth one
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Old 02-06-2005, 02:52 PM
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it sounds more like comparing a sbc to a bbc, anyways i'm off to mc donalds
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Re: Brutal Question.....

Originally Posted by Mystic97Z
air will move faster over a smooth surface, compared to a not smooth one
that was my line of reasoning
not sure if it better to have smooth porting or better mixing
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Old 02-06-2005, 11:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Mystic97Z
air will move faster over a smooth surface, compared to a not smooth one

Um actually no. If we are talking about the difference between what a 80 grit roll leaves and a polished surface there is zero difference. The short side of the port is a area where there is a lot of attention paid to this since people want to make sure the air sticks to it.

All fluids (air being the one we are talking about) has a boundy layer and there is virtually no movement on the surface of the port.....

There is a good post in advanced tech about "boundry Layer" if you do a search on that in quotes you'll probably find it.

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