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Old 10-21-2004, 06:12 PM
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Re: cam lopeyness

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Tiny.
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Old 10-21-2004, 06:16 PM
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Your tuner can help make almost anything bigger than stock lope. Right after I put the ZZ3(very mild) cam in my car I had laptop troubles and had to run it on custom tuning for a stock engine and it loped, with my current tuning it is sleeper as could be guys that know I swapped the cam say she sounds stock.
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Re: cam lopeyness

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Yeah, right.
Why dont we just pull em out and sees whos is biggest! Answer the stupid question, we dont care how big your cam is, unless you have decent advice about it.
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Re: cam lopeyness

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Tiny.
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Old 10-21-2004, 07:37 PM
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Why dont we just pull em out and sees whos is biggest!
LOL that didn't sound right!!!
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Re: cam lopeyness

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Why dont we just pull em out and sees whos is biggest! Answer the stupid question, we dont care how big your cam is, unless you have decent advice about it.
What question do you want me to answer? The original poster's question was what cam would give him the lope he was looking for - I've answered it, as have many others including yourself. There is no 'right' answer due to variables and subjective criteria only the guy asking the question knows.

Contrary to your suggestion otherwise, I was not referring to my cam. I asked a question, it was answered, and I disagree. No biggie - get over it.
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Re: cam lopeyness

I still just don't get the logic of wanting a nasty lope. What's the point?
And all the talk about 233/239 or CC306 having great drivability down
low. I just do not buy it. I have a baby, baby cam and the surge off idle
in bumper to bumper rush hour traffic, although minor, is still irritating.
You would really have to drive anything more than my baby cam. I can
drive it almost like I drove it when it was stock. Anybody that tells me a
CC306 will drive just fine in my situation is in a dream world. By the way,
I have some submerged land for sale too if you are interested.
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Re: cam lopeyness

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I still just don't get the logic of wanting a nasty lope. What's the point?
And all the talk about 233/239 or CC306 having great drivability down
low. I just do not buy it. I have a baby, baby cam and the surge off idle
in bumper to bumper rush hour traffic, although minor, is still irritating.
You would really have to drive anything more than my baby cam. I can
drive it almost like I drove it when it was stock. Anybody that tells me a
CC306 will drive just fine in my situation is in a dream world. By the way,
I have some submerged land for sale too if you are interested.
I think you must be a little too picky then. Although my 230/236 is far from stock feeling it is perfectly managable in bumper to bumper traffic. Gears do help a lot though. I wish i knew someone that was a master tuner as i would love to have them work on my tune and see how much of the cam surge could be eliminated.
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Old 10-22-2004, 12:18 AM
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Re: cam lopeyness

Originally Posted by Mike44Mike
Can you guys compare and contrast the hotcam and the xe 224/230 compare sound and performance. (both on 112LSA)
no but i can compare and contrast jesus and spiderman

My cc306 is streetable but it is not for the light of heart. Any cams ability to act well is all about the tune

if you just want the sound why no rig up a switch that grounds out a couple plugs 3 and 8 should make it sound pretty nasty Then take the money you save and go to the strip club

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Re: cam lopeyness

Originally Posted by truedualws6
I still just don't get the logic of wanting a nasty lope. What's the point?
And all the talk about 233/239 or CC306 having great drivability down
low. I just do not buy it. I have a baby, baby cam and the surge off idle
in bumper to bumper rush hour traffic, although minor, is still irritating.
You would really have to drive anything more than my baby cam. I can
drive it almost like I drove it when it was stock. Anybody that tells me a
CC306 will drive just fine in my situation is in a dream world. By the way,
I have some submerged land for sale too if you are interested.
Its all in the setup My gf drives mine all the time and hasnt bitched once

I have very minor surge around 1500rpm, which the tach rarely sees. I love the dream world. It rocks.
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Another supporter of the CC306 here. I drove the car 25 miles each way to work during the summer and also took a couple 300+miles one way road trips with the car. With stock heads and rear end on 275 Nitto Drag Radials the car put down the numbers and times in the sig.(actually, I think the numbers might be a little low because when I had the tuning done, the plug wires weren't all the way on the opti and so the terminals got all corroded. Swapped opti and the car feels 10x stronger.) If you have a torque converter, you don't even have to wory about the minimal loss of the low end power.
And the sound is amazing. I actually have problems finding people with less than 450rwhp to race me because everyone thinks I have a stroker or something.

Here is a link to my dyno comparing the CC306 w/ long tubes vs CC305 w/shorty headers.
http://www.mnfbody.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=113
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Re: cam lopeyness

Originally Posted by truedualws6
I still just don't get the logic of wanting a nasty lope. What's the point?
And all the talk about 233/239 or CC306 having great drivability down
low. I just do not buy it. I have a baby, baby cam and the surge off idle
in bumper to bumper rush hour traffic, although minor, is still irritating.
You would really have to drive anything more than my baby cam. I can
drive it almost like I drove it when it was stock. Anybody that tells me a
CC306 will drive just fine in my situation is in a dream world. By the way,
I have some submerged land for sale too if you are interested.


Ok I'm a F'ing liar.........I HAVE!!!!!! the cc306 and it drives great.....of course that is my dream world Now I must say, the reason I have good driving conditions is PROBLY because of my tune. Thanks Ion!! And a bigger shock is I have good power on take off . Maybe comp cams sent me the wrong cam...............oh wait, I bought the cam from COMP CAMS NEW, then had the machine shop check its specs before it was installed to make sure I had the right lift #'s! If you would like I can scan the cam card that came with it, and to prove it's me and my card in the picture (not some photo off the net) I can put my hand in the picture with my middle finger pointing up or what ever you would like me to do. And yes, I took this personal like you were calling me a liar.




It really does not bother me you think it's not possible, but you should not rag on a cam you must not have a clue about.

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Strange,, no one has mentioned how HEADERS can have an affect on the sound of a cam.
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i still say a toggle swith and strip club and the car will sound jusssst riggggghhht
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Old 11-05-2004, 07:24 PM
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Re: cam lopeyness

I'm running a 228/238 112LSA cam here and i experience virtually no surge. I get a little at idle once i go into closed loop due to the car running rich (working on that still), but at 850rpm before i go into closed loop while it doesn't idle anything liek a stock engine there is virtually no surge. Even once i'm in closed loop driving in town is not an issue at all, while there is a small amount of surge under 1200rpm it's not really an issue.

Like others said - there is no cam that will keep you near stock gas mileage/drivability AND give you a huge lopey idle. Also keep in mind your exhaust setup will affect how hte car sounds - and get ready to spend some cash.
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