Is this the cheapest way to 500 rwhp??
10-13-2006, 04:40 PM
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Re: Is this the cheapest way to 500 rwhp??
Originally Posted by remaxracer45
so if you are doing a rebuild what bearings and rings are best.
10-13-2006, 04:42 PM
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Re: Is this the cheapest way to 500 rwhp??
You can get some really impressive numbers (bench racing) strapping a rocket on your A$$, but it loses some of it's bragging value when you only get a couple of launches before you wind up rebuilding. You can get as much peak HP out of a little ole 350 as money can buy, but it all boils down to how much you want to spend---otherwise most of us would never even entertain the idea of going with anything but big cams, heads boost and juice.
Yea, you can get 500 RWHP---almost 600 at the crank and you can even do it a reasonalbe cost, but without taking into consideration the ability of anthing but a bullet proof bottom end, it's just a matter of time before you wind up crying in your beer. JMHO
Yea, you can get 500 RWHP---almost 600 at the crank and you can even do it a reasonalbe cost, but without taking into consideration the ability of anthing but a bullet proof bottom end, it's just a matter of time before you wind up crying in your beer. JMHO
10-13-2006, 05:45 PM
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Re: Is this the cheapest way to 500 rwhp??
Originally Posted by BUBBA
You can get some really impressive numbers (bench racing) strapping a rocket on your A$$, but it loses some of it's bragging value when you only get a couple of launches before you wind up rebuilding. You can get as much peak HP out of a little ole 350 as money can buy, but it all boils down to how much you want to spend---otherwise most of us would never even entertain the idea of going with anything but big cams, heads boost and juice.
Yea, you can get 500 RWHP---almost 600 at the crank and you can even do it a reasonalbe cost, but without taking into consideration the ability of anthing but a bullet proof bottom end, it's just a matter of time before you wind up crying in your beer. JMHO
Yea, you can get 500 RWHP---almost 600 at the crank and you can even do it a reasonalbe cost, but without taking into consideration the ability of anthing but a bullet proof bottom end, it's just a matter of time before you wind up crying in your beer. JMHO
10-13-2006, 05:57 PM
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Re: Is this the cheapest way to 500 rwhp??
Some do, some don't. It's a valid point that at the 500 rwhp level, a stock bottom end is likely on borrowed time.
As for what fails: stock bearings tend to fail and so do stock rods... at least with stock rod bolts.
A possible low budget solution would be to replace bearings with Clevite or similar high quality aftermarket bearings, and install ARP rod bolts in the stock rods. However, unless you have the machine shop equipment needed, it might be more expensive than is worth it; it might make more sense to save that money towards a forged bottom end for when the stocker gives up.
Longevity is improved if you can avoid spinning it through the roof... under 6500, for example, will live longer, all else being equal, than 7200 shifts....
As for what fails: stock bearings tend to fail and so do stock rods... at least with stock rod bolts.
A possible low budget solution would be to replace bearings with Clevite or similar high quality aftermarket bearings, and install ARP rod bolts in the stock rods. However, unless you have the machine shop equipment needed, it might be more expensive than is worth it; it might make more sense to save that money towards a forged bottom end for when the stocker gives up.
Longevity is improved if you can avoid spinning it through the roof... under 6500, for example, will live longer, all else being equal, than 7200 shifts....
10-13-2006, 10:48 PM
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Re: Is this the cheapest way to 500 rwhp??
Originally Posted by 94CamaroZ28
Some do, some don't. It's a valid point that at the 500 rwhp level, a stock bottom end is likely on borrowed time.
As for what fails: stock bearings tend to fail and so do stock rods... at least with stock rod bolts.
A possible low budget solution would be to replace bearings with Clevite or similar high quality aftermarket bearings, and install ARP rod bolts in the stock rods. However, unless you have the machine shop equipment needed, it might be more expensive than is worth it; it might make more sense to save that money towards a forged bottom end for when the stocker gives up.
Longevity is improved if you can avoid spinning it through the roof... under 6500, for example, will live longer, all else being equal, than 7200 shifts....
As for what fails: stock bearings tend to fail and so do stock rods... at least with stock rod bolts.
A possible low budget solution would be to replace bearings with Clevite or similar high quality aftermarket bearings, and install ARP rod bolts in the stock rods. However, unless you have the machine shop equipment needed, it might be more expensive than is worth it; it might make more sense to save that money towards a forged bottom end for when the stocker gives up.
Longevity is improved if you can avoid spinning it through the roof... under 6500, for example, will live longer, all else being equal, than 7200 shifts....
Tell that to my friend who was making 500rwhp for 2+ years shifting at 6800, the reason his motor blew is it dropped a valve seat, it had nothing to do with the bottom end or power levels.
10-14-2006, 09:53 AM
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Re: Is this the cheapest way to 500 rwhp??
Originally Posted by speed_demon24
Tell that to my friend who was making 500rwhp for 2+ years shifting at 6800, the reason his motor blew is it dropped a valve seat, it had nothing to do with the bottom end or power levels.
10-14-2006, 10:28 AM
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Re: Is this the cheapest way to 500 rwhp??
Originally Posted by steve9899
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