Tom 97ss #25

11522 Crane Solid Roller Lifter, is the stock retention spider plate needed for these lifters?

TCAL95Z

wow small world.

I have the same lifters. I haven't put my engine together yet.
I need to find this out too.
Where did you get your cam from?

Thanks
Tom

Tom 97ss #25

no cam yet... looking at the Comp XSR solid roller grind. 242/248
This will be going into the WC car.

TCAL95Z

How did you decide on those lifters?
Thunder racing advised me to use them but I haven't found anyone else using them. I got my cam from Joe Overton and my heads/intake from his guy E.B porting. I'm using T&D shaft mount rockers.

Have you decided what rockers to go with yet? The shaft mounts are causing a valve cover issue

Tom 97ss #25

$111.99 off ebay

rockers i'll probably go comp pro mags 1.6 7/16 i was considering shaft mounts... dunno yet

I still have to buy springs and valves for the heads too. then put everything else together for the shortblock.

Sounds like a great setup

TCAL95Z

Thats a great price. I saw those on there. I'll watch this to see what you find out All I have left is valve covers and push rods.

Thanks
Tom

quickSS

did you guys even find out if the stock retainer spider is needed? I would think that the solid rollers would come with a bar between a pair and that does the job of the stock retainer-aligner thingies.

I posted because I saw that you have T&D shaft rockers. I have them on LT1 aluminum and LT4 heads and found 1 set of valve covers that fit. The Proform. Or you can totally gut the insides of the Corvette composite valve covers. You might have to grind a bit on the Proforms but that's no biggy.

Karl Ellwein

1racerdude

If you are planning to use it on the street,you need Crower "HIPPO" or Isky "RED ZONE" lifters. They have pressure oiled rollers. I have seen two sets of Cranes with busted rollers and it ain't pretty.The engine has to be torn down and everything washed to get the metal out.
Not trying to rain on your parade but that's the facts. Low RPM running and idling will destroy a set of mechanical rollers in short order if you have aggressive ramps on a cam and good springs.

SStrokerAce

I'll second that....

Tons of guys have destroyed those lifters on street motors just so they could rebuild them again. I can name probably 6 engines with Crane Lifter failures in LT1's alone. Not a good idea.

Bret

Tom 97ss #25

The solid lifters are going into My Track only Road Racing camaro. (see sig)
so back to my original question, it sounds like i may NOT need the spider retaing plate because of the horizonal bars already in place. Right?

Jason Short

Ok fellas, here is the skinny. I have used these lifters in 3 of my motors, along with Comp EndureX, and Crower's.

The 11522 is actually a common lifter for LT1 guys. As Bret mentioned, alot of these lifters have failed. I am one of those guys that had to go through that I have come to the conclusion that they fail because most people are running them with too much valvespring. IMO, anything over 180lbs on the seat is too much for these lifters to handle. The only successful combination that I have seen these lifters live in is <6800rpm when used with the Comp 977 springs (designed for small solid rollers) and using NO oil restrictors in the engine. I have seen 2 engine last with this setup past 15k miles (one has over 20k). At that point, its time to replace lifters anyway.

So, is it worth it? Sorta. If i was going to go with a solid setup from scratch, I would buy a better lifter. But, if you want some smaller gains over a hyd roller with a small solid, then I think these lifters are ok. But, IMO you are limited in rpm (which you should be with a solid roller) with these.

For instance, I have a solid roller setup in my convertible. Stock motor, stock heads (unported), 11522 lifters, 977 springs, comp 236/242. Idles like a HOT cam, and made 385rw/372rwtq. I am porting the heads now, and looking for 420rw. The only reason I did this solid setup is becuase I had 80% of the parts already. Had I not had them, I would have just done a hyd roller in it.

Take the time to talk to people who have built these combo's, not just buying parts that "fit". That is the best advise I can give. I wish I had done more research before I lost $2500 on a rebuild because of a failed 11522.

Oh, and to answer everyone's question on the lifter valley spider.....you ditch it when you go to a solid roller. No need for it.

Jason

Tom 97ss #25

thanks Jason

TCAL95Z

Tom, Do your crane lifters have the piece that connects them?
I've got to check my part number because the last time I heard about this I checked and I didn't have the same part number.
My crane lifters don't have that piece.

However, I've heard enough not to use these. My car will be driven on the street.

Jason Short

TCAL, you might have the Crane 11552s (not to be confused with the 11522). The 52s are the better lifter, which I have heard nothing bad about, but I dont know anyone but one person running them.

Jason

TCAL95Z

Thanks Jason,

I went out and got the part number off mine. I also looked them up on Cranes site.
Crane says they are their STANDARD mechanical lifter not their pro series
my part number is 10510-16

anyone heard of these?


Thanks