AmericanMuscle33

Ok, so I was dissasembling my heads today before I take them to a machine shop for resurfacing. The deal is I have new springs/retainers/shims/keys/stem seals waiting to go in so I figured I might as well pull the old stuff off before dropping them off at the machine shop.

I pulled all the old springs, keys, retainers off without a hitch. And 13 of the valves slid right out without any problems. However, 3 of the intake valves on the same head won't slide out...I'm thinking there must be a small burr on the valve where the key holds it. I don't want to force it through the guide (since I'll be reusing the stock guids/seats). If there is a burr it's not visible to the eye, but when you pull the valve down I can hear metal to metal contact where it stops....therefore I'm assuming the lip of the valve stem where the keys lock into place has been pushed up, so as it does not want to slip through the guide.

My appoligies for incorrect terminology, etc. First time I've taken the heads all the way apart.

So...is there's a simple way to say attempt to deburr the top of the valve stem? or would this perhaps risk damaging the valve and screw up the keys locking ability?

Thanks,
Andrew

BUBBA

So you are not getting them ported or anything----just surfacing (why just sufacing)? And if you are going to take it to a machinist, I would leave the valves in and let them take them out. Also, I assume that you know which valve went where when you removed the others---if not then the point is moot. If you did, then label the ones that are still in there so when the machinist takes them out you will know from where.

I personally believe that if one is going to remove the heads, that it is only reasonable to do at least some pocket work while they are in the shop. The onlly reason I can see for resurfacing is to raise the compression or because they are warped.JMHO

ayers1967

I could be wrong but it sounds like you have 3 bent valves.

AmericanMuscle33

Yes, all valves I have thus far removed are clearly labeled. I was removing them to save the machinist time, and myself a lil' coin.

The reason for resurfacing is because I had a small crack (there was a previous thread in regards to this problem) I've since had the crack welded; thereby requiring a resurfacing. Also, the freash surface will provide a very nice seal for my blown engine.

Seems I'll leave them as is, and let the machinist figure it out on my dime.

Thanks,
Andrew

BUBBA

Odds are that the side you had welded is the side that the valves won't drop, right. That being the case, you definitely want the machinist to remove the valves to determine the cause and the cure. Good luck.

MeanGreen97Z

How much did it cost you to get this head welded?

AmericanMuscle33

I dropped them off at the machinist a couple hours ago. No, oddly enough the side the valves won't drop out of is not on the welded head. The welded head had no difficulties.

It cost me a grand total of $40.00 for the head repair (the welding).

My machinist said he will remove the valves and check it all out for me. I'm not worried, if something is seriously wrong with this set of heads the machinist should find it. I'll cross that bridge when I come to it.

lethal93ta

you probably had valve float from reving the engine high and it mushroomed the keepers, I had the same thing on mine, I just took a file to the keeper groove.

AmericanMuscle33

That sounds pretty damn plausible. If everything else checks out, I bet that's the ticket.

Thanks,

MachinistOne

It is very common to have the keeper groove edges flare out some, that is keeping the valve from dropping out. DO NOT force the valve out, you will groove the guide all the way down. Let the machinist remove them, he will just use a file and lightly spin the valve on the file to remove the burr.

v7guy

post back and let us know what the verdict is.

jclt12003

when i took apart my heads i just used a lil but of emery cloth and cleaned the bur right up and then the valves went right through without a hitch.


Jason

AmericanMuscle33

Well, I picked up the heads about 10 minutes ago. And yes it was just a simple flare where the keepers go. They filed it down and they dropped right out.

I'll post pictures when I get back from class (approx. 3 hrs from now).

AmericanMuscle33

Here are some pics...took me longer than expected...I went out to take pictures and ended up assembling the heads before I came back in...

So here's pics of the new surface; followed by a before and after pic of the crack repair:






Sorry about the glare...I should have taken a better close-up of the crack repair...Regardless, it looks good in person.

Z-RATED94

Good to hear. But like stated earlier, you really should do a little pocket porting before putting them back on.