97WS6SCharged

It's not twice a thick as a stock gear. Who told you that?

shoebox

I don't think so.

Shawn 97 Z28 M6

No one. I never said anyone told me that . It's been a while since I've seen a stock crank gear though (about 3 years!), but I'm positive the double roller is thicker than the stock. Saying it was twice as thick was sarcasm on my end however..

30thannZ28

please do! I will have to do this soon, and it would be a huge help. you can shoot me an e-mail at mrzebra1@bellsouth.net or if you post them on cz28.com let me know. thanks man!

GREGG 97Z

I installed the $80 Cloyes double roller set on my 97 last year and didn't have any problems at all with reusing the stock hub, and I didnt have to grind the CPS down at all. I left the sensor in the cover to keep it plugged up and just left the connector plugged into it. I didnt gring any part of it. Also, why would you leave the reluctor ring in there if you were deleting the CPS from the PCM anyway? Its not doing anything anymore anyway so I just left that ring out. The only grinding I did was to the inside of the timing cover around the wp drive shaft hole. Just ground that flat before I plugged it up to be sure the washer & bolt didnt contact the chain at all.

shoebox

If you left the reluctor out, then there is probably a gap between the end of the hub and the gear. I would think that the hub should butt against the gear to keep it from possibly walking. Now, if the Cloyes gear is thicker, then it would have made up some of that distance. To keep things proper, the thickness of whatever is newly installed should match the thickness of the original crank gear and the reluctor.

I thought people that were leaving the reluctor out were using the 93-95 hub that is longer, to compensate and make up the distance.

I know the stock crank gear is ~.525 thick. I don't know the thickness of the Cloyes or reluctor. A few measurements should clear all of this up.

30thannZ28

man, I only have a few days left before I throw all that stuff back on, and this thread has managed to totally confuse and scare me


I hope shoebox is right, and I don't have to modify my timing cover or get a pre 97 hub. I have the obd I conversion, so my CPS won't even be recognized.

RedWS6TA

i have just finished my heads and cam install and had problems with the cloyes doulble roller. i had to grind on the back side of the reluctor ring to make it not rub on the chain.

GREGG 97Z

Hmmm, I didnt know that when I did mine but that would make sense. Here's what I did If I remember this right (did this Jan 03). When I installed the new Cloyes crank gear, I tapped it on as far as I could get it with a hammer and piece of thick PVC pipe that was just larger than the crank gear to first get it on as far as I could. Then installed the hub with the reluctor gear (without the timing cover yet) and cranked the hub down to press the gear on and make sure it was all the way seated. Removed the hub again to install the timing cover, then installed the hub a second time. I tried putting the ring on and installing the timing cover, it wouldnt fit with the ring there, so I left it out. I had a hub puller so it wasnt hard to do twice, I just wanted to be sure the crank gear was fully seated because of the difference in thickness and I didnt think I was going to be reusing the reluctor ring. I havn't had any problems yet, that gear gets pressed on there very hard so I guess it hasnt tried to walk but that does concern me a little. If I pull it apart again in the future I will probably go with an earlier hub to be safe.

97WS6SCharged

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