Dyno numbers for Bauer 383
06-18-2003, 01:31 PM
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Matt,
The flow numbers we're 290cfm @ TEA and 288cfm here, all with stock LT4 valves.
The cam was mild for a 383, because I wanted HP peak to be around 6000. It idles like a C306 but it's smaller than that. The specs are not a secret, but it's not something that you can just bolt in without the right valvetrain. So It shouldn't be pubilc knowledge. Putting it in with the wrong parts could cause a bad valvetrain problem if matched up wrong. I think Matt knows the specs but he did pay for it, customers always get to know what's going in their engine and I guarantee that the parts I say they are in there, are there.
The intake was mildly ported, we didn't even weld it up which I could have done for some more flow.
Matt's $4000 didn't include some of the things, namely the LT4 castings, those were traded out. A dupicate engine of his would be around $6000, for the whole thing assembled. A little less if we used LT1 castings.
Matt's setup was very budget oriented and he sold off all of his old stuff to set it all up.
I wanted to spend most of the money on the heads and valvetrain which we ened up doing. His heads retail $1250 for the porting and $1250 for the cores, so that would take up a HUGE amount of that $4000 as you can see.
It's definately not a N2O setup, but a few changes to the bottom end and he could be shooting alot of juice at it.
Machine work alone on the engine is about $800.
Later this week we should have some stuff going up on here since we will start sponsoring the board.
Bret
The flow numbers we're 290cfm @ TEA and 288cfm here, all with stock LT4 valves.
The cam was mild for a 383, because I wanted HP peak to be around 6000. It idles like a C306 but it's smaller than that. The specs are not a secret, but it's not something that you can just bolt in without the right valvetrain. So It shouldn't be pubilc knowledge. Putting it in with the wrong parts could cause a bad valvetrain problem if matched up wrong. I think Matt knows the specs but he did pay for it, customers always get to know what's going in their engine and I guarantee that the parts I say they are in there, are there.
The intake was mildly ported, we didn't even weld it up which I could have done for some more flow.
Matt's $4000 didn't include some of the things, namely the LT4 castings, those were traded out. A dupicate engine of his would be around $6000, for the whole thing assembled. A little less if we used LT1 castings.
Matt's setup was very budget oriented and he sold off all of his old stuff to set it all up.
I wanted to spend most of the money on the heads and valvetrain which we ened up doing. His heads retail $1250 for the porting and $1250 for the cores, so that would take up a HUGE amount of that $4000 as you can see.
It's definately not a N2O setup, but a few changes to the bottom end and he could be shooting alot of juice at it.
Machine work alone on the engine is about $800.
Later this week we should have some stuff going up on here since we will start sponsoring the board.
Bret
Last edited by SStrokerAce; 06-18-2003 at 01:36 PM.
great numbers man
06-18-2003, 03:19 PM
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Thanks for the corrections Bret, I must have miss read one of your emails a while back. I do have the cam specs but they are on a sheet somewhere...
And yes the LT4 castings were not included in that total. After all of the moving/selling/trading that went on I broke even by selling my old GTP heads and then aquiring the LT4's with some goodies included. So yes a set of LT4 castings would be added on.
Like I said, contact Bret for more info.
After all the money/time I spent over the last 6+ months the biggest thing I learned was to know how to deal with the right people. I dont mean to be a poster child for Bauer Racing but Bret was atamite about myself having input and I was able to talk to Bret on a daily basis. I would highly suggest contacing Bret if you have anything in the works.
Thanks again for the compliments.
And yes the LT4 castings were not included in that total. After all of the moving/selling/trading that went on I broke even by selling my old GTP heads and then aquiring the LT4's with some goodies included. So yes a set of LT4 castings would be added on.
Like I said, contact Bret for more info.
After all the money/time I spent over the last 6+ months the biggest thing I learned was to know how to deal with the right people. I dont mean to be a poster child for Bauer Racing but Bret was atamite about myself having input and I was able to talk to Bret on a daily basis. I would highly suggest contacing Bret if you have anything in the works.
Thanks again for the compliments.
06-18-2003, 03:38 PM
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sounds like a deal anyone would be happy with!
bret..........what are your honest opinions on TEA's head work?
i have a mustang buddy (builds some very powerful mustangs, think 4 digit hp) and he said hes had nothing but good work from them.
bret..........what are your honest opinions on TEA's head work?
i have a mustang buddy (builds some very powerful mustangs, think 4 digit hp) and he said hes had nothing but good work from them.
06-18-2003, 03:43 PM
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intresting how he used the keith black pistons-
And i agree (big deal huh
), forged pistons aren't needed for an NA setupd and are a pretty big waste of money, money that should go into valvetrain.
I wish Bret would have seen my post asking this question when I was building my motor. If he did I wouldn't have billet steel rods or forged pistons
And i agree (big deal huh
), forged pistons aren't needed for an NA setupd and are a pretty big waste of money, money that should go into valvetrain.I wish Bret would have seen my post asking this question when I was building my motor. If he did I wouldn't have billet steel rods or forged pistons
06-18-2003, 04:31 PM
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Originally posted by treyZ28
intresting how he used the keith black pistons-
And i agree (big deal huh), forged pistons aren't needed for an NA setupd and are a pretty big waste of money, money that should go into valvetrain.
I wish Bret would have seen my post asking this question when I was building my motor. If he did I wouldn't have billet steel rods or forged pistons
intresting how he used the keith black pistons-
And i agree (big deal huh
), forged pistons aren't needed for an NA setupd and are a pretty big waste of money, money that should go into valvetrain.I wish Bret would have seen my post asking this question when I was building my motor. If he did I wouldn't have billet steel rods or forged pistons
what is the price difference between the KB's and some JE/SRP forged?
if its only a couple hundred bucks, id personally think thats worth being able to feel safe spraying some juice once in awhile.
06-18-2003, 05:17 PM
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Originally posted by got_hp?
what is the price difference between the KB's and some JE/SRP forged?
if its only a couple hundred bucks, id personally think thats worth being able to feel safe spraying some juice once in awhile.
what is the price difference between the KB's and some JE/SRP forged?
if its only a couple hundred bucks, id personally think thats worth being able to feel safe spraying some juice once in awhile.
06-18-2003, 05:26 PM
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Originally posted by treyZ28
not if your planning on going na
not if your planning on going na
you know how those plans go........
now
"oh, i just want 400rwhp n/a and ill be more than happy"
two months later
"this thing is too slow, i need more!"
hehe
06-18-2003, 06:03 PM
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Originally posted by got_hp?
you know how those plans go........
now
"oh, i just want 400rwhp n/a and ill be more than happy"
two months later
"this thing is too slow, i need more!"
hehe
you know how those plans go........
now
"oh, i just want 400rwhp n/a and ill be more than happy"
two months later
"this thing is too slow, i need more!"
hehe
06-18-2003, 07:35 PM
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Originally posted by got_hp?
bret..........what are your honest opinions on TEA's head work?
i have a mustang buddy (builds some very powerful mustangs, think 4 digit hp) and he said hes had nothing but good work from them.
bret..........what are your honest opinions on TEA's head work?
i have a mustang buddy (builds some very powerful mustangs, think 4 digit hp) and he said hes had nothing but good work from them.
