blazin454

hey hows it going? im new to the site and normally was a lifted truck kinda guy... anyways i was driving a friends 02 mustang gt, supercharged.. dyno was 491 i believe.. anyways it was alot of fun... i now want to build something up but since im a chev guy its only right that i do a camaro.. ive been having a hard time finding a good platform.. ive seen 99-03 mustang gts for anywhere from $4995-$7000 and seems like the best deal i can find around here (bc canada) is about $10,000 for a 96 camaro z28, 6sp... (seen alot of autos) anyways it has the lt1 in it.. im wondering if you can tell me what kinda power i can get out of that car without spending a ton of money is and also am i better off with starting with a 96 z28 for 10grand over a mustang gt for 4 grand?

ypsiZ28

Tell you the truth I don't know why that car is that high. I paid 2k For a 93 Z28 in michigan no rust bucket either and she flies. shes bone stock. Plus Top that off. an Unmodded Z will blow most bolt on GT's out of the water.

blazin454

ya i think 10,000 is high.. it has 140,000 kms too i believe.. it has rims, tires, exhaust, b&m short shift kit... t-top.. the car is in really good condition but i have had a hell of a time finding any up here for a decent price.. i have found some that were lower priced but all of them were an automatic..

my first goal with the car would be to beat my buddies supercharged mustang haha.. i have heard you can have some bad twist too with the t-tops?

ypsiZ28

Yeah it is true. my car is a an auto car but i still got the guy down teh street and hes got an svt cobra. i got him up to 98 lol then he hits 5th and hes gone lol. but i had a 96 firebird that had a small body twist that had only a V6

blazin454

what can i do to prevent this twist? and what am i looking at if i want say... 500hp to keep up with this buddy of mine?

blazin454

i guess i should have added... im looking at a 99 mustang gt for.. lets say $5000 and a 96 camaro z28 for $10,000... i am a chev guy, always have been.. but to build something thats just made to have power and go fast either will work for me... am i better off starting off with the camaro or the mustang then putting 5 grand into the mustang? does one car have more "build ability" then the other? what are the pros and cons of the two? id like to throw on a supercharger with the least ammount of work... sounds dumb i know.. but ive been looking at 0-60 mile times and 1/4 mile times and they are close between the two..

crash4cyl

There are a few things to consider. First is what are you doing with the car the most? Street or track, then what kind of track.

I'm ahead of myself. First consider the differences between the two. Chevy's are known torque monsters, whereas the ford may have more hp.....key word is may. If you compare apples to apples, a 99 GT V. a 99 Z28 to start. The Z is a better platform period. Not only do you start with higher numbers from the engine, but with the same suspension that a lot of mustang guys are putting under their cars for track cars. The Tq. arm is a very good design, albeit the panhard rod is probably the downfall. True perfect scenario is Tq arm and a watts link. Now comparing the 99 GT V. a 96 Z is a little different. The GT will be cheaper to mod, to some extent. The mod motor is very popular now and has a good following, a lot like the 5.0 craze. The LTx motors are GM's read-headed step child. Now you can use traditional SBC build processes but the aftermarket support for the heads is the real drawback. The mod motors are now having offerings that are far superior, but the LSx motors are even better. Personally I'd look into getting an LSx powered car. Depending on where you're at in BC, look at coming stateside to pick one up. They are plentiful, and readily affordable. You may be spending closer to the 7-9K US mark, but you'll be getting a better car. I personally have no beef with the Stang, aside from I don't fit in thw SN95/New Edge chassis. They are good cars to start with, but usually require more to get you to the point you want to be at (ie. your buddies car that puts down 491 supercharged, can be done in an LSx car with heads and cam). So it all depends on personal choice.

I say go chevy/pontiac, but I'm a diehard chevy guy, and that's why I got my 93Z......that and I got it for $4K with under 90K miles

Injuneer

$10K, even Canadian, seems way too high for a 96 Z28 (or Formula/TA). Should cost 1/2 of that or less. For $10K, consider a 98 or newer F-Body, with the LS1 engine. I know you live there, and we don't but its hard to rationalize the prices you quoted.

blazin454

thanks for the replies... the cheaper mustang is gone but im not looking at an 05 that will cost 11 grand vs the camaros 10 grand.. apparently in 05 they upped the mustang a bit?? either way ive always had a thing for the t-top camaro, its just unfortunate that the only ones ive been able to find cost so much... especially when i now have to cars that are pretty much the same price but the one is 9 yrs newer and has about 60,000 kms less on it. I have been looking for cars in montana, idaho, and even spokane and seattle as they are places i could get to and trailer a car home..

my brother found a 99 camaro ss that says it has an all aluminum 345 horse engine in it for 8500... it looks like a nice car but by the time i get it across the border, do the inspection, then do everything to meet the standards here i may be up over that 10,000 dollar mark..

omgwtfdied

I got my camaro off of craigslist. It takes time man. You cant just say i want one and find it the next day. patients is a virtue when it comes to used cars. I waited 4 months. Looking at camaros back and fourth. One day i found it, she wanted 4500. It had 64thousand miles. 94 camaro, Looked amazing. Said ill give you 3500. Next day it was mine. You gotta play it

blazin454

ya you are deffinately right there... but man i must say, when it comes to getting a ride and pumping it up i just cant wait!! ahaha.. ive been looking around and seen some more nice ones but still in the 7000-8000 margin.. beautiful cars, 100,000-200,000 kms on them. there is one or two that are in the $4000 range but have 200,000 and 220,000 kms on them, is that a big deal? another thing is that im having a hard time finding manuals, alot of autos... whats your opinion on that? im really thinking i want a manual..

blazin454

im still kinda torn between this 05 mustang gt and the 96 z28... i hear alot that the mustangs up to 04 cant keep up with the z28s (stock vs stock) but how about the 05+?? any differences in handling between the two? being a camaro forum it may be one sided but helpful input is appreciated, thanks in advance.

omgwtfdied

Miles wont matter much. It how it was maintained and driven. Which you wont know. Nothing beats a low km car tho. I know how you feel about wanting one and wanting one now. i was the same way. Everytime i saw a camaro i thought it was the one. But my dad told me to calm it down and get the one you really want at the right price. So i waited and searched. Im glad i did. in the end you will too. and autos not bad, it nice for cruzing, you wont lose much speed. people beg to differ. and no, an 05 mustang is a actually about the same as the 93 camaro and up. mustang at 300hp and camaro at 275. wont notice much. who hit the gas a fraction of a second first?

blazin454

ive already seen better deals just in the last few hours ahaha. this one that is an auto the guy says it has 330 hp lt1 same as corvette drivetrain?? is that a factory option from 96 or is he just talking out of his ***?

im not seeing anything about a 96 z28 coming with a 330hp lt1.. there is a 97 ss that had one but i cant find anything on 1996...

Injuneer

You really need to keep this in one thread.....

https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/sho...d.php?t=733443