69gto96z

Its not really more than I wanna spend, its more than I have to spend

BUBBA

This is probably a stupid question, but your thread says that you are rebuilding the bottom end and maybe throwing in a cam. So are you saying that you can pay for all of that, but it doesn't leave you much to do the heads, or---are you saying you don't have but a couple of hundred to do the whole thing?

Because....if you don't have but a couple hundered (period) then are Pi$$ing up a rope of hope because $200 won't get you very far in any direction. JMHO

69gto96z

No, I am running out of money on the build. I have the bottom end done, but the valvetrain is kicking my @$$ money wise. I set about 1800 aside to do the whole build

BUBBA

Ok: So you have the bottom end "done". Probably no cam, right?

So how much money do you have to do the heads?

Why, you ask.....because if you installed a cam, which I doubt you did, you would want to go with Roller rockers, springs, pocket job, etc. which is spendy. Assuming that you didn't do a cam and that you have very little cash left, then we can go back to the top and say: Pay the guy to do the $300 job or clean your heads and lap the valve seats if necessary yourself and do the power mods when you are able.

BTW: It would have been simpler if you said what you had finished and how much money you had left and asked what should I do with this money, in re to the heads.JMHO

69gto96z

Sorry, ok. The block is in the machine shop, the reuild kit is at my house. The cam is on its way, the valve springs are on their way. The timing chain will be ordered here in the next few days, along with the electric waterpump, opti, and guideplates. Then the head work, then the roller rockers and whatever else I have on my list. I cant remember it all off the top of my head. I think im just ognna bite the bullet and get the heads done. Thanks for all the info and help.

BUBBA

Good idea. The suggestion regarding the pocket job was merely say that if you can't do a full-blown head job, then at least have them work the pockets uder the valve seats including blending, etc. which, as was mentioned, represents about 75% of the restriction of the head flow and will take considerably less time and money than porting the complete heads.

Installing a bigger cam along with 1.6 Ratio roller rockers and the appropriate springs,etc. along with pocketed heads will really wake that sucker up and the head work will get the most out of the cam. Consider some headers down the road for the exhaust side and roast some tires.

Let us know how it's going.

69gto96z

Ive got full bolt on's minus the electric waterpump. I plan on upgrading to LE2 heads later on down the road, so that will really make me smile.

rasputin

my machine shop recommended a 3 angle valve job, and some kinda smoothing of the area around the valve where the fill it up with water and do some other stuff. I think he called it a "fly cut?" Is that the same thing as pocket porting and is it beneficial?

good thread

MachinistOne

3 angle valve job is stock - that is not a performance job.

Flycutting generally refers to cutting the pistons for high lift/long duration cams...so he might mean cutting open the pocket or basin around the valve with the cutters, which is the wrong way to do the work, and can actually hurt performance because you are just removing a lot of material with no regard to how it helps direct the airflow.

Heads can make big gains on a motor if the work is done right, the problem is many shops are just production type shops and don't know what performance means...

69gto96z

Well the guy im having do mine is the guy who does all the work minus the porting for Lloyed Elliot, and I have heard nothing but good things about him.