89385formula

Thanks, and good luck with your car. Having a car ripped apart is nothing new to me. Care to elaborate on your current buildup?

jasonisdn

i'll pm ya

OldSStroker

I just read this thread with my first morning coffee. What an interesting study in personalities! It beats watching Today or GMA for entertainment.

By the way, it's libel when you write it and slander when you speak it in front of others. I'm not a lawyer, but I did stay in a Holiday Inn Express recently.

Regards,

Ernie

FASTFATBOY

Damn you an early bird to?

David

1LESSZ28

I am not saying anything else in one of these threads. I only mentioned mine to show there are other options out there and I am not saying the ones I got are any better. A long time ago the cost of porting heads kept me from doing them for a while.

More competition in a given sector of heads usually leads to very competitive pricing and lots or r&d into port shape and design to outdo the competition. When only two companies are mentioned in a comparison post obviously there is not a lot of competition going on when they are very similarly priced. I don't see le or ai lowering their prices anytime soon or trying to one up the other. That is why there are the ai guys and the le guys - one may be marginally better than the other but not significantly enough to have a clear cut winner. It amazes me how much cheaper you can get ported ls1 castings fully aseembled for a hell of alot cheaper than the porting services (you supply the heads) rendered by these two companies. The ls1 has many more options available and lots of competition which is very good for the consumer - not so for the supplier. Just saying there are other options available...do your own research and draw your own conclusions - I am done.. and yes this thread does need to be closed

96capricemgr

These arguments are pointless because even same track same day comparisons people just make excuses. Been there done that.

OldSStroker

That would make a good "PINKS" episode.

SS MPSTR

Really?


I agree that more choices the better - it drives the price down and is motivation for R&D. Your example of the LSx head market was a good example.

FASTFATBOY

Competition makes it better for all of us.



David

Injuneer

I didn't bother to read this thread initially, because it was obvious from the topic that it would deteriorate. And it has. I'm starting to get PM's about it..... so I'll have to start going through it and deleting the posts that resort to childish insults, name calling, and abuse of the language filter. Unfortunately, when these threads go in the crapper, its often the same people that put them there. So, I guess some corrective action is required as well.

JasonD

If people can't have a discussion without this, they need to leave or will be asked to leave. There is no place for any of that on this site. Never has been.

SS RRR

So you're running 122mph (can't remember your old ET's before your new LE heads) through the traps with the new heads? You were running 118mph just before the LE heads w/ a BB cam, right? If that's the case then no I didn't see that and a big congrats!

Tell you what.. you give me the specs of your Joe O cam and I'll give you mine. Deal?
And the running of "mouths" part. Honestly all I read on this site from LE setups are "Help me/problems/LE setup and dyno numbers and there are a lot of pationate people on this site eager to defend a product that's produced a mass result of mid 12's @ ~110mph.

89385formula,
As stated I am neutral to both camps. I am only stating what I have observed.
I stated 99% faster than members of this site. Those times were run over 7 years ago. Times have changed.

hvyss

I am one of the B bodies Lloyd is talking about. 12.18 on stock suspension, off the shelf CC503 cam, and 4400lbs isint bad since I am giving almost a 1000 lbs to the camaros. Don't get me wrong AI has great products. I know several people with them and love the way their cars run. A good friend had an AI setup so I decided to go with Lloyd to compare with his AI setup. He runs low 11's in 95 Z at 3400lbs and I run low 12's at 4400lbs. I think with a little more tunning and good cool weather I can get an 11.90 out of the pig. I'm trying.
HVY SS

Bersaglieri

I try not to get in on these threads, but in respect to the Impala's, my buddy back home is running mid or high 11's with his pig and some LE2 stuff on a 355.

-Dustin-

mdacton

That sounds just like my combo.......