lt1 hanging with 03 cobra
#46
Re: lt1 hanging with 03 cobra
Well an 03-04 Cobra costs 25-35K so add some mods to it and you could be wll into 30-40k range and run lower 11's. Then you start breaking halfshafts and trannies so more money. With 10k you could easily buy a LT1 car and mod it to run low 11's. All it would take would be a small cam, converter, exhaust, PCM tune, RR's and drag radials with stock 3.23's it will run all over most Cobras. You save 20k. I just finished a friends car just like above and it ran 11.18@125mph on a 150shot and it had stone stock heads/intake, suspension, rear even stock injectors. Later Clint
#47
Re: lt1 hanging with 03 cobra
Originally Posted by T/A lt1
Well an 03-04 Cobra costs 25-35K so add some mods to it and you could be wll into 30-40k range and run lower 11's. Then you start breaking halfshafts and trannies so more money. With 10k you could easily buy a LT1 car and mod it to run low 11's. All it would take would be a small cam, converter, exhaust, PCM tune, RR's and drag radials with stock 3.23's it will run all over most Cobras. You save 20k. I just finished a friends car just like above and it ran 11.18@125mph on a 150shot and it had stone stock heads/intake, suspension, rear even stock injectors. Later Clint
i hate when people do this.
#48
Re: lt1 hanging with 03 cobra
Originally Posted by 95firehawk
Just giving credit where credits due. 12.5 @ 111 is not going to outrun 03/04's all day long. You will beat some but not "all day". Most bolt on Cobras run 11.4's @ 120. And I am not saying it can't be done but the money needed to put in an LT1 car is pretty significant to run those times. Your sig is a prime example of that.
The initial thread wanted to know what it would take to run with 03/04 Cobras. My response is, whatever it takes to run somewhere in the mid to low 11's and/or 120+ mph.
The initial thread wanted to know what it would take to run with 03/04 Cobras. My response is, whatever it takes to run somewhere in the mid to low 11's and/or 120+ mph.
I think he was refering to his new setup...no times yet but he ran low 10s all day long with ported stock heads/n20/306 cam. Now he has the same setup with trickflow heads.
#49
Re: lt1 hanging with 03 cobra
Do what explain to people it's not that hard to run quick using alot of stock parts and not alot of money? I am a budget racer and even though my car has run low 10's@134mph I am not talking about it. I did run 10.80's@126mph with a heads/cam stock bottomend, stock rear, stock suspension etc... in full street trim so I do know what it takes to run or outrun new Cobras. I rode in one that has twin turbos and made 700rwhp man it was a blast but not any faster than my LT1 on n2o. If I had 40-50k to play with I would probably build one just to have b/c I like all Hotrods. Later
#50
Re: lt1 hanging with 03 cobra
lotta cobras in my neck of the woods usually just convert to a solid rear, pulley up, and put a 50-100shot on, most are mid/low 11's on "motor", and well into the 10's on the bottle. so...maybe a 2500 dollar investment all together for an 03-04 cobra. boost is a wonderful thing.
#51
Re: lt1 hanging with 03 cobra
Originally Posted by T/A lt1
Do what explain to people it's not that hard to run quick using alot of stock parts and not alot of money? I am a budget racer and even though my car has run low 10's@134mph I am not talking about it. I did run 10.80's@126mph with a heads/cam stock bottomend, stock rear, stock suspension etc... in full street trim so I do know what it takes to run or outrun new Cobras. I rode in one that has twin turbos and made 700rwhp man it was a blast but not any faster than my LT1 on n2o. If I had 40-50k to play with I would probably build one just to have b/c I like all Hotrods. Later
#52
Re: lt1 hanging with 03 cobra
I have a freind with an 04 Cobra and we race regularly (after every mod he does).
The first time we raced when he was stock and I have my present mods (runs mid 11s without any effort), I beat him by about 6 car lengths, from a stop it want any prettier.
He added a cat-back, and the "L" pulley and he narrowed the float race maybe a car , but the stop race was still a slaughter. He then added headers , no cats, smallest pulley (I think he said 2.inch or something) Ported pulley, Fancy intake system, big fuel pump and in line pump and a dyno tune (dynoed 460/4 something on a mustang dyno) I beat him by about a half a car from a float and 2 from a stop. He then added some nitrous, I can't remember the horsepower it was 6 something, but his torque I remember was 705. he beats me by about 4 (from 30 to 110) and he edges me out by about 1 1/2 cars from a stop (when he gets a good launch , by his driving terms).
For the dollar people, he has over 40 thou in his car and I have less than 12 thou , including the price of my car.
The first time we raced when he was stock and I have my present mods (runs mid 11s without any effort), I beat him by about 6 car lengths, from a stop it want any prettier.
He added a cat-back, and the "L" pulley and he narrowed the float race maybe a car , but the stop race was still a slaughter. He then added headers , no cats, smallest pulley (I think he said 2.inch or something) Ported pulley, Fancy intake system, big fuel pump and in line pump and a dyno tune (dynoed 460/4 something on a mustang dyno) I beat him by about a half a car from a float and 2 from a stop. He then added some nitrous, I can't remember the horsepower it was 6 something, but his torque I remember was 705. he beats me by about 4 (from 30 to 110) and he edges me out by about 1 1/2 cars from a stop (when he gets a good launch , by his driving terms).
For the dollar people, he has over 40 thou in his car and I have less than 12 thou , including the price of my car.
#54
Re: lt1 hanging with 03 cobra
Originally Posted by scottslt1z28
on stock tires???? and full weight. Point me to the article. I would love to see that, and if true i will then appologize
#56
Re: lt1 hanging with 03 cobra
12.8's are achievable with an fbody possibly even quicker, 12.4 in a cobra, yea if you can powershift and maybe some tires or really good track prep (my friend drove his 03 mach 1 to a 12.90@103 bone stock, he shifted the hell outta it, but he broke 13's, so id say a cobra is quite capable of it with proper driver)
#57
Re: lt1 hanging with 03 cobra
I was at Norwalk about 20 times this past summer on test n tune nights and I have not seen a Cobra run worse than 12.8. One guy that I ran into was running an overdrive pulley (more boost) and exhaust and ran 11.70's. And that was in a vert! Guys who were not turning up the boost ran mid 12's all day long, no problem. A good driver running 12.4 stock is realistic under the right conditions in my opinion.
Yes, call me a liar. I know its coming. I was there all summer. The track is outstanding so he has that going for him.
Plus, of all the ones I have seen I will say that about half of them at least have a couple of bolt on's. They run 11's very easily with minimal mods and money.
I hate to say this because I hate Ford's and would never own one, however the Cobra's are flat out nasty. I watched a guy run a 11.77 and he took the top down and cruised home with a car with the streetability of a grocery getter. Nasty, flat out nasty.
I do think Ford kind of gave up on catching the LS1's of the time and that's why they threw a blower on the car. Cheating in a way. But like one guy said earlier, it's all about who crosses the line first.
Yes, call me a liar. I know its coming. I was there all summer. The track is outstanding so he has that going for him.
Plus, of all the ones I have seen I will say that about half of them at least have a couple of bolt on's. They run 11's very easily with minimal mods and money.
I hate to say this because I hate Ford's and would never own one, however the Cobra's are flat out nasty. I watched a guy run a 11.77 and he took the top down and cruised home with a car with the streetability of a grocery getter. Nasty, flat out nasty.
I do think Ford kind of gave up on catching the LS1's of the time and that's why they threw a blower on the car. Cheating in a way. But like one guy said earlier, it's all about who crosses the line first.
#60
Re: lt1 hanging with 03 cobra
Originally Posted by White H/C 94Z
Ported heads with larger valves, hotcam, 3800 stall, pacesetter LT's, TSP true duals, 12 bolt with 3.73's.
Think thats enough to put me in front of a stock one?
Think thats enough to put me in front of a stock one?