Need "help" Picking Cam :)
03-31-2003, 05:12 PM
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Need "help" Picking Cam :)
hi ok now i have to chose a cam thats right for me and i don't really know much about them well not just a cam the whole kit but mostly what lift type of lift and parts to use
i have a friend i work with that is going to take a day to work on my car and do the engine over with a better bigger cam 1.6 rr i think i want and he is going to show me and teach me about it and for only 200-250 dollars which i think is very nice of em
i think my stock setup in my 95 lt1 is with a 465 lift??? well i don't no what to get
i want a comp cam product i think
ok i have a m6- (6 speed) with the df clutch and 4.10s and the LT4 km hpp3 well if u look down u can see what i have i don't what any thing crazy and i don't want to have to reprogram the computer
please explain what the differences are and what will make my car fast
i don't what to get i big drop in gas mileage
and what is the lt4 hot cam
and cc305 or what ever
all you input is going to be very helpful to me thanks
i have a friend i work with that is going to take a day to work on my car and do the engine over with a better bigger cam 1.6 rr i think i want and he is going to show me and teach me about it and for only 200-250 dollars which i think is very nice of em
i think my stock setup in my 95 lt1 is with a 465 lift??? well i don't no what to get
i want a comp cam product i think
ok i have a m6- (6 speed) with the df clutch and 4.10s and the LT4 km hpp3 well if u look down u can see what i have i don't what any thing crazy and i don't want to have to reprogram the computer
please explain what the differences are and what will make my car fast
i don't what to get i big drop in gas mileage
and what is the lt4 hot cam
and cc305 or what ever
all you input is going to be very helpful to me thanks
03-31-2003, 05:33 PM
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Well with shorty headers you won't see a crazy gain up top compared to if you had LT's. But if I had to do it again I wouldn't get the LT4 HotCam (I bought it because it was easily available). I wouldn't get the cc305 either. I would get something like a cc306 on stock heads for now, and later get the stock heads ported real nice. If you want not alot of cam surge and more streetability get something like a 228/228 .525/.525 111-112LSA.
I don't know its just my idea of more streetable than a cc306. Just don't mess around with getting a cam to small, not worth the pain of putting it in. Get a good valve spring so if you ever do upgrade to a cc306 since you will have knowledge now it will just be a cam swap.
-Corey
I don't know its just my idea of more streetable than a cc306. Just don't mess around with getting a cam to small, not worth the pain of putting it in. Get a good valve spring so if you ever do upgrade to a cc306 since you will have knowledge now it will just be a cam swap.
-Corey
03-31-2003, 05:34 PM
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you are going to have to reprogram the computor no matter what cam you put in. If you have to pass emissions the biggest cam that you cam get is the cc305. There is a huge debate about the cc305 vs. lt4 hotcam. After sifting through massive amounts of info, it seems like the cc305 will put out a little more power that the hotcam (some will disaggree) but the hotcam sounds a little more lopey. Hope this helps.
03-31-2003, 05:41 PM
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If you're looking for a low budget swap, nothing beats the LT4 Hotcam kit.... or even comes close to it truthfully.
Also, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but for a do-it-yourselfer a cam swap is minimally a 2-day job from what I've seen.... a shop could probably do it in 8-10 hours of solid work.
-Michael
Also, I hate to be the bearer of bad news, but for a do-it-yourselfer a cam swap is minimally a 2-day job from what I've seen.... a shop could probably do it in 8-10 hours of solid work.
-Michael
03-31-2003, 05:41 PM
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Did you want to pass smog? There are several paths you can go through. Are you going to port and polish your heads?
CC502 CC503 CC305 Crane PM2050 Crower 561 Crower 562 LT4 Hot Cam TPIS ZZ9X
Gross In 0.495 0.503 0.510 0.498 0.495 0.525 0.525 0.483
Gross Ex 0.503 0.510 0.510 0.498 0.515 0.545 0.525 0.520
Total Dur. In. 269 276 276 280 262 274 282
Total Dur. Ex. 276 281 290 280 266 284 287
Dur. @ .050 In. 218 224 220 218 208 221 219 212
Dur. @ .050 Ex. 224 230 230 218 216 230 228 226
Lobe Separation 112 112 114 116 114 114 112 112
CC502 CC503 CC305 Crane PM2050 Crower 561 Crower 562 LT4 Hot Cam TPIS ZZ9X
Gross In 0.495 0.503 0.510 0.498 0.495 0.525 0.525 0.483
Gross Ex 0.503 0.510 0.510 0.498 0.515 0.545 0.525 0.520
Total Dur. In. 269 276 276 280 262 274 282
Total Dur. Ex. 276 281 290 280 266 284 287
Dur. @ .050 In. 218 224 220 218 208 221 219 212
Dur. @ .050 Ex. 224 230 230 218 216 230 228 226
Lobe Separation 112 112 114 116 114 114 112 112
03-31-2003, 05:52 PM
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There are so many cams out there for the LT1. Every car will perform differently with each cam, and people also have certain biases towards some cams. If you really want to research some cams, do a search. There have been many debates on the Cc305 vs. Hot Cam and others. If you do a search for "cams" you will fiond many posts about many different types of cam.
03-31-2003, 05:57 PM
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I won't give you a reason why or anything but I would a Comp Cams XE 230/236 on 112lsa . Nice and lopey, yet streetable in everyway (from what I'm told with a 6 speed). It won't cause your car to stall in traffic and cam surge should be minimal. Also, when you slap some P & P heads on your car this cam should work great. Its the cam I'm going with.
03-31-2003, 06:28 PM
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If you want a nice cam that will pass the sniffer, go with LT4 Hotcam Kit. No hesitation in throttle responce, lopey, you can use stock heads for now if your on a budget. We just finished insalling one in my friends car today. I was impressed with the results from considering there was no porting and no tuning done yet. 
03-31-2003, 10:50 PM
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Well with shorty headers you won't see a crazy gain up top compared to if you had LT's. But if I had to do it again I wouldn't get the LT4 HotCam (I bought it because it was easily available). I wouldn't get the cc305 either. I would get something like a cc306 on stock heads for now, and later get the stock heads ported real nice.
umm.... I must ask what are you thinking. Why would yo get the 306? With the amount of mods that DMX has, the cc306 would be incredibly too big. The 306 has no low end power and you have to spin the rpm's wayyy to high on a essentially stock engine. I have had many people tell me that they had the 306 installed on their heavily modded cars and they regretted ever putting it in. For someone that is just starting out, the hotcam or the c305 is probably going to be the most that he will want to go. If you go to the comp cam web site and look at their 306 cam, it essentially says that it sucks on the street. Don't go cc306, it won't pass the sniffer and you will be going way over your head. One more suggestion, you buddy that is going to be "helping" you might also have some knowledge on the subject. Hope the best, think strongly before you the the 306 cam.
04-01-2003, 05:32 PM
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Originally posted by smokindastangs
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umm.... I must ask what are you thinking. Why would yo get the 306? With the amount of mods that DMX has, the cc306 would be incredibly too big. The 306 has no low end power and you have to spin the rpm's wayyy to high on a essentially stock engine. I have had many people tell me that they had the 306 installed on their heavily modded cars and they regretted ever putting it in. For someone that is just starting out, the hotcam or the c305 is probably going to be the most that he will want to go. If you go to the comp cam web site and look at their 306 cam, it essentially says that it sucks on the street. Don't go cc306, it won't pass the sniffer and you will be going way over your head. One more suggestion, you buddy that is going to be "helping" you might also have some knowledge on the subject. Hope the best, think strongly before you the the 306 cam.
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umm.... I must ask what are you thinking. Why would yo get the 306? With the amount of mods that DMX has, the cc306 would be incredibly too big. The 306 has no low end power and you have to spin the rpm's wayyy to high on a essentially stock engine. I have had many people tell me that they had the 306 installed on their heavily modded cars and they regretted ever putting it in. For someone that is just starting out, the hotcam or the c305 is probably going to be the most that he will want to go. If you go to the comp cam web site and look at their 306 cam, it essentially says that it sucks on the street. Don't go cc306, it won't pass the sniffer and you will be going way over your head. One more suggestion, you buddy that is going to be "helping" you might also have some knowledge on the subject. Hope the best, think strongly before you the the 306 cam.
-Corey
04-02-2003, 05:20 PM
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ok i need a kit
i don't wanna spend alot of money getting the parts separate
whats the difference from the hot cam kit and cc305 in detail
i know the my lifters are bad
well when i do the job i just wanna replace all the parts so i don't run into problems later
i wanna spend maybe 500 for all the parts
any one no where to get the parts the cheapest
and do u know what this mod this going to do to my car
sound , hp, gas mileage ect.
i don't wanna spend alot of money getting the parts separate
whats the difference from the hot cam kit and cc305 in detail
i know the my lifters are bad
well when i do the job i just wanna replace all the parts so i don't run into problems later
i wanna spend maybe 500 for all the parts
any one no where to get the parts the cheapest
and do u know what this mod this going to do to my car
sound , hp, gas mileage ect.