in need of someone with patience and lots of exp with lt1
10-22-2011, 01:21 PM
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Re: in need of someone with patience and lots of exp with lt1
why is that?? isnt more air pulled into the motor better? it would have to give me some kind of gain. im sure more internal upgrades would have a way bigger use in it maybe if i got a cam and some other things.. then again im not the best motor guy floating around as we all know so i could be wrong but i gotta assume it would do some sort of gain in hp/torque
10-22-2011, 02:47 PM
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Re: in need of someone with patience and lots of exp with lt1
A 48mm throttle body can flow more air than your engine needs now. As a result, there is very little pressure loss due to the friction through the bores of the throttle body. You would only gain air flow if there was significantly less pressure loss through the monoblade, and that isn't the case.
The guys that built my enigne showed me how I didn't even need my 58mm throttle body to make 500HP at the flywheel. Monoblade would a huge waste on a relatively stock engine, and would screw up the PCM's ability to control the A4 shifting.
AS&M's on the dyno.....
http://www.injuneer.com/images/photos/Dyno.jpg
http://www.injuneer.com/images/photos/Engine/fut01a.jpg
The guys that built my enigne showed me how I didn't even need my 58mm throttle body to make 500HP at the flywheel. Monoblade would a huge waste on a relatively stock engine, and would screw up the PCM's ability to control the A4 shifting.
AS&M's on the dyno.....
http://www.injuneer.com/images/photos/Dyno.jpg
http://www.injuneer.com/images/photos/Engine/fut01a.jpg
10-22-2011, 04:09 PM
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Re: in need of someone with patience and lots of exp with lt1
A 48mm throttle body can flow more air than your engine needs now. As a result, there is very little pressure loss due to the friction through the bores of the throttle body. You would only gain air flow if there was significantly less pressure loss through the monoblade, and that isn't the case.
The guys that built my enigne showed me how I didn't even need my 58mm throttle body to make 500HP at the flywheel. Monoblade would a huge waste on a relatively stock engine, and would screw up the PCM's ability to control the A4 shifting.
AS&M's on the dyno.....
http://www.injuneer.com/images/photos/Dyno.jpg
http://www.injuneer.com/images/photos/Engine/fut01a.jpg
The guys that built my enigne showed me how I didn't even need my 58mm throttle body to make 500HP at the flywheel. Monoblade would a huge waste on a relatively stock engine, and would screw up the PCM's ability to control the A4 shifting.
AS&M's on the dyno.....
http://www.injuneer.com/images/photos/Dyno.jpg
http://www.injuneer.com/images/photos/Engine/fut01a.jpg
10-22-2011, 04:15 PM
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Re: in need of someone with patience and lots of exp with lt1
You aren't going to pick up any major HP with a larger throttle body until you do other modifications to the engine that help it consume more air. The bores in the stock intake manifold are 52mm. You could upgrade to a 52mm without changing anything. If you go larger than 52mm the bores in the intake manifold will have to be modified to match. And you will have to have the PCM reprogrammed to correct the shifting of the automatic transmission. There are people who will bore out your stock throttle body to 52mm.
The biggest HP gains will come with ported stock heads and a matching camshaft. You don't have to pull the motor to do that. You would pull the intake manifold, heads, balancer, water pump, distributor, timing cover and chain, the cam, lifters and pushrods. But heads/cam can add up to 200HP at the flywheel, with supporting modifications (CAI, long tube headers, larger throttle body, PCM reprogram, larger injectors). If you gained anything with a larger throttle body, its single-digit HP.
The biggest HP gains will come with ported stock heads and a matching camshaft. You don't have to pull the motor to do that. You would pull the intake manifold, heads, balancer, water pump, distributor, timing cover and chain, the cam, lifters and pushrods. But heads/cam can add up to 200HP at the flywheel, with supporting modifications (CAI, long tube headers, larger throttle body, PCM reprogram, larger injectors). If you gained anything with a larger throttle body, its single-digit HP.
10-22-2011, 04:45 PM
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Re: in need of someone with patience and lots of exp with lt1
You aren't going to pick up any major HP with a larger throttle body until you do other modifications to the engine that help it consume more air. The bores in the stock intake manifold are 52mm. You could upgrade to a 52mm without changing anything. If you go larger than 52mm the bores in the intake manifold will have to be modified to match. And you will have to have the PCM reprogrammed to correct the shifting of the automatic transmission. There are people who will bore out your stock throttle body to 52mm.
The biggest HP gains will come with ported stock heads and a matching camshaft. You don't have to pull the motor to do that. You would pull the intake manifold, heads, balancer, water pump, distributor, timing cover and chain, the cam, lifters and pushrods. But heads/cam can add up to 200HP at the flywheel, with supporting modifications (CAI, long tube headers, larger throttle body, PCM reprogram, larger injectors). If you gained anything with a larger throttle body, its single-digit HP.
The biggest HP gains will come with ported stock heads and a matching camshaft. You don't have to pull the motor to do that. You would pull the intake manifold, heads, balancer, water pump, distributor, timing cover and chain, the cam, lifters and pushrods. But heads/cam can add up to 200HP at the flywheel, with supporting modifications (CAI, long tube headers, larger throttle body, PCM reprogram, larger injectors). If you gained anything with a larger throttle body, its single-digit HP.
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