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Old 02-16-2003, 11:05 PM
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PCMforless yourself tuning problem

Ive checked all my connections, everything is right and has continuity up to the wire connecting to the computer. I get the error "no message sent" or "incorrect message sent" when I run flshread. Basically it wont connect to the PCM. Ive checked to make sure the com ports match and everything, tried it with two laptops, Dell and a Sony. Any ideas????
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Old 02-16-2003, 11:43 PM
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Does the engine start/run?
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Old 02-16-2003, 11:53 PM
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yep, the car runs fine, just did a head/cam install and everything, stock prog runs it fine, but im missing out on quite a bit of HP without it.
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Old 02-16-2003, 11:58 PM
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Are you running some sort of aftermarket ignition like MSD?
Are you sure you're using the right com port on the computer?
Have you used the cable you're trying to connect with before successfully?

Also kind of a stupid question, but you're not trying to connect to the PCM with the engine running, are you?
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Old 02-17-2003, 12:04 AM
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No
Im 99% sure
Nope, just got it
No, last position before starting it

I also have freescan, and it wont connect either
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Old 02-17-2003, 12:06 AM
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You aren't using Windows XP/NT/2000 are you?
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Old 02-17-2003, 12:09 AM
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maybe your cable is no good. have you tried pulling the PCM fuse a after you get the errors?

are you running it thru DOS?
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Old 02-17-2003, 12:21 AM
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XP, is that the problem, The way im doing it is going to ...Start>All programs>accesories>command prompt

Do i have to do it with 98?
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Old 02-17-2003, 12:23 AM
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You would have to use thier Windows FLSH utility, you CAN'T use an MS DOS PROMPT reliably. That is not real DOS, that is NTVDM.

You need to make a Boot Disk, or try F8 at bootup and select COMMAND PROMPT, do not boot into Windows unless you have access to the Windows FLSH utility.

Make sure to do a read before a write so you know things are working.
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I use XP and it is giving me a ton of problems sometimes with the connections. INCLUDING the messages you're getting.
I would highly recommend getting a Windows 95/98 Boot Floppy, booting from it and running whatever you're running from it....
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Originally posted by Dr.Mudge
You would have to use thier Windows FLSH utility, you CAN'T use an MS DOS PROMPT reliably. That is not real DOS, that is NTVDM.

You need to make a Boot Disk, or try F8 at bootup and select COMMAND PROMPT, do not boot into Windows unless you have access to the Windows FLSH utility.

Make sure to do a read before a write so you know things are working.
Yep, or what Dr.Mudge said.... although I would personally preffer the dos version over the windows one. Less chances of other applications screwing with the process...
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Well I did try using the boot disk that you make with the PCMforless, that brian sends. When you start the computer up with the disk in the drive and it automatically goes into dos, it gave me the same message there too. I have access to a laptop with 98 on it, do you think it will work if i try it with that pc?
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Try it. Also disconnect any devices connected to the laptop. (printers, flash cards, network cards, external mouse, etc)
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go to GM & ask them to check if you have the latest edition of software in your car, they should check it for free, I think there were 2 revisions, if they check & say all is fine than you know its your cable, if not they'll tell you they can't scan it, or try some scanning utility or something.
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My buddy works at a dealership and Ive used a scantool2 on it before and it worked fine, the only thing i cant do is flash codes by grounding the circuit and watching the SES light flash. But the scantool works fine
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