replacing timing chain?
08-18-2005, 01:13 PM
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Re: replacing timing chain?
I mentioned this timing set a few times already.... it is a single non roller and if you search a little bit you will find more horror stories from people running that lunati timing set than the stock one, making it worse than stock?
08-18-2005, 02:13 PM
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Re: replacing timing chain?
Originally Posted by 93camaroLT1
i suppose the best time to replace that non vented opti spark to a vented one might be when the mine goes out down the road (from what I hear, they are pretty ****ty) and then just move up to a double roller.
08-18-2005, 03:10 PM
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Re: replacing timing chain?
Originally Posted by Z95m6
You'll have to pull the cam to make the swap then. I wonder if you could just buy a Cloyes double roller and have a machine shop bore a hole in the center for your opti?
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08-18-2005, 03:15 PM
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Re: replacing timing chain?
i dunno, i think I am just going to order the stock timing set as much as a i dont really want to.. but on the bright side, since I am using nitrous, the car is actually not going to be pushing much more than 375 rwhp prolly 90% of the time unlike with a blower/turbo were the you're pushing a lot more power all the time.
08-18-2005, 03:25 PM
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Re: replacing timing chain?
Originally Posted by 93camaroLT1
i dunno, i think I am just going to order the stock timing set as much as a i dont really want to.. but on the bright side, since I am using nitrous, the car is actually not going to be pushing much more than 375 rwhp prolly 90% of the time unlike with a blower/turbo were the you're pushing a lot more power all the time.
08-18-2005, 04:20 PM
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Re: replacing timing chain?
The cloyes and lunati single non rollers aren't much better than stock if at all. The only timing set that will work for my car that isn't "stock" is the $500+ comp cams double roller and i'm not that sure it will work either. I really don't think the timing chain is going to be the first thing I am going to have to worry about breaking either.. more likely the trans and rear end.
08-18-2005, 04:41 PM
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Re: replacing timing chain?
Originally Posted by 93camaroLT1
The cloyes and lunati single non rollers aren't much better than stock if at all. The only timing set that will work for my car that isn't "stock" is the $500+ comp cams double roller and i'm not that sure it will work either. I really don't think the timing chain is going to be the first thing I am going to have to worry about breaking either.. more likely the trans and rear end.
Cloyes builds GM timing sets to GM spects. There vented opti set is much better than stock.It's a roller and has billett gears.It' the LT-4ED.
08-18-2005, 06:15 PM
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Re: replacing timing chain?
I can't argue with making something stronger such as a heavy duty timing set. But I won't defend it either as I have run and replaced the timing set with a stock timing set on my rebuild. I know quite a few people who have LT-1's that run nitrous with strokers and 350's. They or me have never had any problems running nitrous with the stock timing set. I won't say that stronger isn't better, but I have seen the stock timing sets run fine in numerous other LT-1's.
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08-18-2005, 11:17 PM
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Re: replacing timing chain?
funny that you say that, not to sure if LS1's run a better timing set, but there is a ton of them around here running mid 11s and few even in the 10s running nitrous and blower setups and with their stock timing sets, granted it might not be the safest way to go, I haven't seen of heard of any horror stories out here with the stock timing sets.
08-19-2005, 01:51 PM
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Re: replacing timing chain?
Originally Posted by 93camaroLT1
I haven't seen of heard of any horror stories out here with the stock timing sets.
http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...e+timing+chain
http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...e+timing+chain
http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...e+timing+chain
There are more but i don't want to take the time to find them.
08-20-2005, 09:08 AM
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Re: replacing timing chain?
I recently upgraded my '94 to the '95 opti and aftermarket timing chain. I highly suggest you do this now, because it is kind of a PITA to do with the engine in the car. It will come back to haunt you later on, just like it did to me.
Upon tear down, I found the stock timing chain stretched beyond belief, I am surprised it didn't come off! What a pile of **** the stock chain is. I would never trust that part again, it's just too important of a part to skimp on.
Basically in order to make the swap to a '95 opti, you will need to change the cam to get the longer dowel pin to drive the opti. Not a big deal if the motor is already out of the car.
You will need a '95 timing cover.
You can run a gm performance parts heavy duty chain with this combo or...
Run an electric water pump and install a standard double roller chain (I got a rollmaster from Scoggin Dickey). But the timing cover will need to be clearanced. I was lucky because my bro has a cnc shop. I had the cover machined. The top hole in the cover has to be covered also because the water pump is no longer driven mechanically.
Upon tear down, I found the stock timing chain stretched beyond belief, I am surprised it didn't come off! What a pile of **** the stock chain is. I would never trust that part again, it's just too important of a part to skimp on.
Basically in order to make the swap to a '95 opti, you will need to change the cam to get the longer dowel pin to drive the opti. Not a big deal if the motor is already out of the car.
You will need a '95 timing cover.
You can run a gm performance parts heavy duty chain with this combo or...
Run an electric water pump and install a standard double roller chain (I got a rollmaster from Scoggin Dickey). But the timing cover will need to be clearanced. I was lucky because my bro has a cnc shop. I had the cover machined. The top hole in the cover has to be covered also because the water pump is no longer driven mechanically.
08-20-2005, 09:59 PM
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Re: replacing timing chain?
Originally Posted by EDS Z28
I recently upgraded my '94 to the '95 opti and aftermarket timing chain. I highly suggest you do this now, because it is kind of a PITA to do with the engine in the car. It will come back to haunt you later on, just like it did to me.
Upon tear down, I found the stock timing chain stretched beyond belief, I am surprised it didn't come off! What a pile of **** the stock chain is. I would never trust that part again, it's just too important of a part to skimp on.
Basically in order to make the swap to a '95 opti, you will need to change the cam to get the longer dowel pin to drive the opti. Not a big deal if the motor is already out of the car.
You will need a '95 timing cover.
You can run a gm performance parts heavy duty chain with this combo or...
Run an electric water pump and install a standard double roller chain (I got a rollmaster from Scoggin Dickey). But the timing cover will need to be clearanced. I was lucky because my bro has a cnc shop. I had the cover machined. The top hole in the cover has to be covered also because the water pump is no longer driven mechanically.
Upon tear down, I found the stock timing chain stretched beyond belief, I am surprised it didn't come off! What a pile of **** the stock chain is. I would never trust that part again, it's just too important of a part to skimp on.
Basically in order to make the swap to a '95 opti, you will need to change the cam to get the longer dowel pin to drive the opti. Not a big deal if the motor is already out of the car.
You will need a '95 timing cover.
You can run a gm performance parts heavy duty chain with this combo or...
Run an electric water pump and install a standard double roller chain (I got a rollmaster from Scoggin Dickey). But the timing cover will need to be clearanced. I was lucky because my bro has a cnc shop. I had the cover machined. The top hole in the cover has to be covered also because the water pump is no longer driven mechanically.