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Old 11-07-2006, 09:33 PM
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Setup looks good! I am still in the process of putting mine together.. underestimated how much time being a new dad takes up!!

For those wondering about price FWIW for my setup the converted intake and cam was about 1800 from Bret, the TFS heads from Lloyd about 2000, and then shortblock about 3800.. then the extras about another 1000-1500, I am using a sullivans racing elbow and a BBK cobra dual 62mm throttle body to solve the tip-in problem..

Lastly add dynotuning 500..

That gets in the ballpark range for my 383..
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Originally Posted by blackz97
I have heard in the past that its a bastard to tune out the tip in hesitation with the single plane / elbow setup and the stock ECU. Has anyone with this setup made any substantial finds as to what the problem is? Im seriously considering a setup like this but it loses value if im gonna have to buy a stand alone to make it livable.

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i am running a 4 bbl 1200cfm throttlebody. i havent touched my mail order tune and i have noticed no tip in hesitation.
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Old 11-07-2006, 09:39 PM
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Originally Posted by J's 82

That gets in the ballpark range for my 383..
Sucks doesn't it? Well, congrats "Dad". Leave some money for diapers
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Old 11-07-2006, 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Jerm93z28
i am running a 4 bbl 1200cfm throttlebody. i havent touched my mail order tune and i have noticed no tip in hesitation.
What's your setup?
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Old 11-07-2006, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by chrism400
What's your setup?
car- '88 T/A

engine-
stock 140,000 mile LT1 shortblock
mildly ported heads (by me)
230/236 cam
accel pro-ram single plane w/1200cfm tb
msd billit distributor (sbc style)
(still using a 93 pcm with mail order chip)

trans-
th400 w/3600 converter

rear-
9" w/4.56's and spool
28x10.5 hoosiers

suspension-
chromoly k member, control arms, lca's, panhard
koni spa-1's all around
moroso trick front springs
s&w subframes and torque arm
wolfe rollbar
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Old 11-08-2006, 12:11 AM
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Tip in issues are all fuel related BTW, I haven't run into someone running one of mine with it yet with either a 58mm (dual bore) TB or a 90mm mustang style TB.

Bret
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Old 11-08-2006, 01:09 AM
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Bret,

The only elbows i know of to accept the dual bore TB's are the intakeelbows.com one and the sullivan that takes a ford TB. The intakeelbows.com piece looks like it doesnt have that smooth of a transition thought. The setup with the 90mm LS1 style single bore throttle body look decent but from what i understand these are the ones with the big tip in problems. What are you getting people to use for an elbow with your setups?

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Old 11-08-2006, 01:49 AM
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Well, and the 58mm/monoblade one that I'm working on. Just need some time to finish it.

I've had setups with Wilson 90mm Ford TB's with the cast Wilson Elbows like pictured in this thread without tip in issues.

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has anyone tried this on a supercharged application?
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Old 11-08-2006, 11:45 AM
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Yep, look up the user on here Z8.
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Originally Posted by SStrokerAce
Yep, look up the user on here Z8.
it said it cant find him.

What kind of difference did it make?
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How beneficial would something like this be if i didnt change cams?

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has anyone tried this on a supercharged application?
Look up nomoreLs1 (Ls1tech member as well) he put the accel SP intake on and gained 80RWHP throughout the RPM but it Peaked the same???

Bret later on I may sell the LT4 intake and we will do another Super ViC with my Monoblade.

I see LS1 guys do the LS6 intake to Single plane swap a bit as well.
In a Gm high tech article a guy stated he gained 90RWHP from the swap.
Either way you can make 1000 hp with a LTX style intake but a Single plane would benefit.

From what I have been told Runner length does not matter but it would Flow more air to the pistons.
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http://web.camaross.com/forums/member.php?u=45234

Thats who I was reffering too...

Steve,

I'm actually doing a that test with JonA soon. He has his 355 with LE3 heads and a custom cam (around a LE3) he is going to setup the motor with the LT1 intake first and when I can ship him off his single plane he'll test that later on, same everything but different intake. It should work just fine with that cam.

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Originally Posted by SStrokerAce
I'm actually doing a that test with JonA soon. He has his 355 with LE3 heads and a custom cam (around a LE3) he is going to setup the motor with the LT1 intake first and when I can ship him off his single plane he'll test that later on, same everything but different intake. It should work just fine with that cam.

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get 'er done already
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