View Poll Results: Which should I do?
Keep CC306 and add Nitrous
6
42.86%
Keep the CC306 and work on suspension and tuning
6
42.86%
Ditch it and get a LE2 or LE3 cam
2
14.29%
Why dont you have a LSX motor yet, you fool!
0
0%
Voters: 14. You may not vote on this poll
Stick with CC306 or go another direction?
#18
Yea, I wouldnt run anything much smaller than a CC306 if I was doing a cam, but I'm kinda over the top with vehicles.
As far as a nitrous cam, I dont think that'll be necessary. The N/A cams Lloyd and I were talking about would all work pretty good on nitrous, especially the one I'm considering right now.
Yes I've thought about going solid roller and talked to Lloyd about it alot, and it's something I'd consider doing if I did a rebuild, but right now I'm going to stay HYD Roller.
Well wrd1972, I think I've finally made the decision to go with a nice lil custom cam Lloyd spec'ed for me. Now it's on to wether or not to port the intake and squeeze the extra 8-12hp there...
I'm sending so much stuff over there it might be worth driving over and dropping it off
-Dustin-
As far as a nitrous cam, I dont think that'll be necessary. The N/A cams Lloyd and I were talking about would all work pretty good on nitrous, especially the one I'm considering right now.
Yes I've thought about going solid roller and talked to Lloyd about it alot, and it's something I'd consider doing if I did a rebuild, but right now I'm going to stay HYD Roller.
Well wrd1972, I think I've finally made the decision to go with a nice lil custom cam Lloyd spec'ed for me. Now it's on to wether or not to port the intake and squeeze the extra 8-12hp there...
I'm sending so much stuff over there it might be worth driving over and dropping it off
-Dustin-
#21
Kinda makes me wanna take another CC306 into the 10's... Could always save the custom cam for when to bottom end poops the bed. Or do a before/after camshaft comparison later.
Thanks Z-RATED I just needed a little peer pressure You car gives me encouragement to hit 11's N/A and 10's on the bottle. Got a detailed mod list anywhere?
What do you guys think about getting the Vigilante stall bumped from 3200 to 3600? I think 4000 might be too much for spray, PI didnt sound trilled about 4000 stall with spray either. Hell we all know the 3600 is actually 4000 anyways, the 3200 stalls to 3500-3600 and is definately too small for the CC306, it bogs out of the hole...4.11's out back.
PS: 4 folks say keep the CC306 and add juice, 4 say keep the CC306 and do suspension, 2 say ditch and get a LE2 or LE3, and zero say get a LSX [Thanks for the support]
-Dustin-
Thanks Z-RATED I just needed a little peer pressure You car gives me encouragement to hit 11's N/A and 10's on the bottle. Got a detailed mod list anywhere?
What do you guys think about getting the Vigilante stall bumped from 3200 to 3600? I think 4000 might be too much for spray, PI didnt sound trilled about 4000 stall with spray either. Hell we all know the 3600 is actually 4000 anyways, the 3200 stalls to 3500-3600 and is definately too small for the CC306, it bogs out of the hole...4.11's out back.
PS: 4 folks say keep the CC306 and add juice, 4 say keep the CC306 and do suspension, 2 say ditch and get a LE2 or LE3, and zero say get a LSX [Thanks for the support]
-Dustin-
Last edited by Bersaglieri; 08-09-2009 at 04:48 AM.
#22
Dustin, are the heads LE or are they just LE2 size? I don't think you will have a problem out preforming my set-up once it's dialed in. Just be carefull with the torque converter and don't go to big. In the future I'd like to have mine restalled to a 4k but I will be moving up to a 28" tire too. Which will you be shooting for, fastest NA or on the bottle, you can't have both? Rick
#23
I have a vigi restalled from 3200 to 3600 w/3.73 gears and it's still a little tight. Now the 4.10 gears you have will help out with the higher stall but yeah PI did not want to go too high with the stall. I did net 1.603 60' times with the 3200 n/a and have yet to get the 3600 stall to hook up at the track well as the last time I went the track prep was null and my pinion angle was 0 degrees. Next time out I'm going to set it to -2 and see what happens with good track prep. I'm looking for 1.56 60' times N/A. The nitrous will be later. I did the cc306 for it's great drivability in a 383 and ease of tuning. Also it's a great n/a / nitrous cam or so I hear.
#24
Dustin, are the heads LE or are they just LE2 size? I don't think you will have a problem out preforming my set-up once it's dialed in. Just be carefull with the torque converter and don't go to big. In the future I'd like to have mine restalled to a 4k but I will be moving up to a 28" tire too. Which will you be shooting for, fastest NA or on the bottle, you can't have both? Rick
Yea I'd really like to have a N/A monster, but with the 4L80e and 9in it's pointless not to run lots of power through them. If I wanted to go that route I'd need to put in a TH350 or something. Hence I'll probably be running nitrous. Although I dont know if I'll have it setup to run just on nitrous since lots of juice and the stock bottom end get along like Muslims and Jews The stall is 3200 right now, and I have to talk to PI about how it was setup the first time. I tried calling them today at work, but then I realized it was Sunday. Due to the nitrous 3600 will probably be the highest I can go if I spray out of the hole. Unfortunately with nitrous it would probably blow through a 4000 stall even though the motor would probably love it. BUT...I might have a trick up my sleeve to solve that problem
I have a vigi restalled from 3200 to 3600 w/3.73 gears and it's still a little tight. Now the 4.10 gears you have will help out with the higher stall but yeah PI did not want to go too high with the stall. I did net 1.603 60' times with the 3200 n/a and have yet to get the 3600 stall to hook up at the track well as the last time I went the track prep was null and my pinion angle was 0 degrees. Next time out I'm going to set it to -2 and see what happens with good track prep. I'm looking for 1.56 60' times N/A. The nitrous will be later. I did the cc306 for it's great drivability in a 383 and ease of tuning. Also it's a great n/a / nitrous cam or so I hear.
Got a little smiley crazy there...14 hours at work in the heat will make you do some stupid stuff, yea I'm leaving them there.
-Dustin-
#25
I would have to say if your only wanting to spray around 200hp then any n/a cam will respond well to the nitrous. It is not always a wider LSA that makes a cam like nitrous it has more to do with a wider split in the duration with the exhaust being larger. If he will give you some numbers before you commit I would think a tighter lobe seperation then the 306 with about the same 15* difference in duration would be a good choice.
I've had a 306 cam that went into the 10's to so that cam isn't bad but you can do better.
I've had a 306 cam that went into the 10's to so that cam isn't bad but you can do better.
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