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Old 04-17-2005, 09:45 PM
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time to upgrade (long tubes)

Ok im going to make this as short as possible. I have an exhaust leak and I have decided to upgrade to long tubes. Cash is low but I do want a good set. I have been looking at pacesetters. Pros and Cons? Install tips?? I live in NJ and need to have cats to stay legal (yes I know that relocating the cats isn’t totally legal) I want AIR and hi flow cats.

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Old 04-17-2005, 11:19 PM
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Re: time to upgrade (long tubes)

go with the pacesetters. i just installed a set and it was a damn easy install. I didnt have to lift the engine or anything...everything just bolted right up. I was also impressed with the overall quality of the product!

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I agree, go with the pacesetters. I also just helped with an install and it went smooth. We had te car on jackstands (about 18" high) and they went in from the bottom very easily. I like them much more than my Jethots. Good luck!!
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i went with a set of used ceramic coated jet hots from the board. Paid $300 shipped for them. Went right in without having to jack the engine up or anything.
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pacesetters arent a bad choice. especially when comparing costs. i think any way you go, you will be happy you got long tubes on. might want to consider getting them coated though. makes a huge difference.

make sure to use some breslin bolts when putting the headers on. you can get them from www.summitracing.com- part #: BPP-200-076 (or a little longer ones, i forget the length needed). these will save you a lot of trouble down the road with retightening your bolts. also use felpro 1406 header gaskets. i wouldnt recommend using the ones they come with.
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anyone else??
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Due to the north east weather conditions I"d get a set of stainless steel headers. I have a set of pace setters that are ceramic coated...been on about a year and the coating is trashed underneath, its pretty much all off. Not to mention the welds on the pace setters are pretty poor. I'd save up money and buy a better set, preferably Kooks.
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Due to the north east weather conditions I"d get a set of stainless steel headers. I have a set of pace setters that are ceramic coated...been on about a year and the coating is trashed underneath, its pretty much all off. Not to mention the welds on the pace setters are pretty poor. I'd save up money and buy a better set, preferably Kooks.
I thought they were really good headers????
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I just saw a post that said kooks are 800 .
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THey are alright for the money sure. Yes Kooks are expensive but you get what you pay for.
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Are Breslin header bolts worth it? I'll be getting a set of 12 from Summitt, anyone know a cheaper place to get these?
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I just ordered a set of pacesetters with emissions hookups . now i need cats. could i just get the pacesetters y and weld in cats?? will it fit?? of should i just get one custom made?? also the vendor said i could use the stock bolts and shouldn't have a problem?? lastly where sould i get the gaskets from??
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I'm pretty sure you're going to have a shop put in cats for you. I suggest Carsound/Magnaflow cats on Ebay.
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I'm pretty sure you're going to have a shop put in cats for you. I suggest Carsound/Magnaflow cats on Ebay.

Guess you missunderstood my question. I am asking if i can mod the passetters ORY to have cats. Weld them in myself. I think that this would work but will it clear the floor boards?? anyone have the ORY?? how much room is the till it hits the floor boards??
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Originally Posted by camaroz28_97
Guess you missunderstood my question. I am asking if i can mod the passetters ORY to have cats. Weld them in myself. I think that this would work but will it clear the floor boards?? anyone have the ORY?? how much room is the till it hits the floor boards??

I didn't misunderstand. I told you that if you got cats you would have to have a shop put them in. Obviously if you don't have cats now, you'll need hi-flow ones, like Carsound/Magnaflow. I have the ORY, and a lot of people have problems with the collector hitting the floor. My headers have not yet been installed.
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