Weight Reduction
#1
Weight Reduction
I wanna get rid of some excess weight on this car. I mean I checked the door and it says like 4,200lbs.!!!! Dang this thing is like a truck with a sports car suspension and body! Is that really the stock weight? Mine is a 94 Z28 btw...
I was thinking I could take out the spare tire, I know I'm screwed if I blow a tire, so I'm hesitant about that. The rear seats and seatback could be taken out but for not many lbs. saved. I'm stuck on what I can do to lower weight. I don't want to ruin the cars dynamics or use ricer methods, but there's got to be something I can do to make the car more 'efficient'...
I was thinking I could take out the spare tire, I know I'm screwed if I blow a tire, so I'm hesitant about that. The rear seats and seatback could be taken out but for not many lbs. saved. I'm stuck on what I can do to lower weight. I don't want to ruin the cars dynamics or use ricer methods, but there's got to be something I can do to make the car more 'efficient'...
#2
Your car does not weigh 4,200#.... that label shows the max allowable load, including the wet weight of the car, driver, three passengers and a trunkload of crap.
Typical race weights are in the range of 3,500-3,750#, including the driver. People have managed to go as low as 3,000#, but there's not much left at that point...... .
Weight reduction is a good idea, but you need to know where you're starting. There used to be a really great thread on ls1tech.com, but unfortunately they move to a new server and the thread link doesn't seem to work any more. If you go there and search for it, you will find an extremely comprehensive list of parts you can remove, and the weights.
Typical race weights are in the range of 3,500-3,750#, including the driver. People have managed to go as low as 3,000#, but there's not much left at that point...... .
Weight reduction is a good idea, but you need to know where you're starting. There used to be a really great thread on ls1tech.com, but unfortunately they move to a new server and the thread link doesn't seem to work any more. If you go there and search for it, you will find an extremely comprehensive list of parts you can remove, and the weights.
#3
Take the spare out, just dont drive anywhare far without it, luckily I work and go to school close to the house so its not that big of a deal. Keep some instant tire fix stuff in your car. Other than that im not sure, but I do know that the back seats really dont weigh that much. Take your front sway bar out :P who needs it, I dont
#4
Here is something you can go by......
First step....
Buy a lightweight optioned car
Free stuff....
9...!ABS
21.5!AC compressor
8.5.!AC condenser
....!AC fan motor
13.5!Airbag and bracket, passenger's
4...!Airbag, driver's
....!Air dam
1...!Air filter
5...!Amp, Monsoon
4...!Antenna, bracket, and motor if applicable
....!Ashtray & lighter
....!Blinker switch
2...!Bolt lengths, extra
....!Brake pedal pad
23..!Bumper, front reinforcement and brackets
21..!Bumper, rear reinforcement and brackets
34..!Carpet & Sound deadening
50..!Catback
15..!Cats
9...!Center console
....!Coating, under carpet
4...!Crossmember brace
....!Cruise control
10..!Dash
20..!Door panels
11..!EGR, air pump, & harware
....!Emblems
....!Fan, 1
....!Fan shroud
5...!Floormats
3...!Foglights and brackets
....FRA mod
....!Gas, Extra
2.5.!Glovebox
1...!Grill insert
4...!Hatch cover
2...!Hatch shocks
....!Headlights
....!Headliner
3...!Head unit
....!Head unit/AC console trim piece
8...!Heat sheilding
9...!Heater core
1...!Hood shocks
3...!Horn
3...!Inner fenderwells, plastic
....!Liscense plate brackets
....!Liscense plate(s)
....!Misc. junk in the car like keys, garage remote, change, owner's manual, etc.
1...!Owner's manual
3...!Panels, under steering wheel
5....Panhard rod brace, upper
....!Parking brake
....!Power brake booster
....!Parking brake handle
....!Power seat motor
11..!Power steering pump, pulley, idler pulley
....!Power window motors
1...!Rear view mirror
9...!Seatbelts (rears and passenger's)
34..!Seat, passenger's
19..!Seats, rear
3...!Sheetmetal, extra double walled
....!Shifter ****
5...!Side impact bars
35..!Spare tire and jack
7...!Speaker panels, hatch
5...!Speaker panels, rear passenger's
15..!Speakers
35..!Spoiler (Weight measured on a Pontiac)
....!Spring isolators
2...!Sun visors
14..!Swaybar and brackets, front
....!Taillight(s)
2...!T-Top holders
....!Under car tow points
1...!Washer fluid pump
9...!Windshield washer fluid
2...!Windshield wiper reservoir
3...!Wiper arms
3...!Wiper motor
....!Wiring, Excess
Wallet mods....
3...Airlid, aftermarket
3...Chromoly LCAs
3/9.Carbon fiber driveshaft
14..Chromoly A-arms
30.5Chromoly K-member
....Draglite wheels
....Drag slicks or street slicks
....Drilled axles
24..Dry cell battery
10..Electric water pump
....Fiberglass door skins
30..Fiberglass hood
....Fuel cell
18..'99+ fuel tank for '98 cars
....Headers
....Lexan glass
....Lightweight clothing
35..Lightweight brakes, front
....Lightweight brakes, rear
10..Lightweight flywheel
13..Lightweight springs and shocks
....Lightweight steering column
6...Lightweight steering wheel
10..Manual rack and pinion steering
....Plastic fuel tank, late model
....Powerglide, TH350, or M4 transmission
17/29.Racing seat
....Shortbelt mod
....Skinny front tires
15..Spool
20..TQ converter, small
....Underdrive pulleys
Buy a lightweight optioned car
Free stuff....
9...!ABS
21.5!AC compressor
8.5.!AC condenser
....!AC fan motor
13.5!Airbag and bracket, passenger's
4...!Airbag, driver's
....!Air dam
1...!Air filter
5...!Amp, Monsoon
4...!Antenna, bracket, and motor if applicable
....!Ashtray & lighter
....!Blinker switch
2...!Bolt lengths, extra
....!Brake pedal pad
23..!Bumper, front reinforcement and brackets
21..!Bumper, rear reinforcement and brackets
34..!Carpet & Sound deadening
50..!Catback
15..!Cats
9...!Center console
....!Coating, under carpet
4...!Crossmember brace
....!Cruise control
10..!Dash
20..!Door panels
11..!EGR, air pump, & harware
....!Emblems
....!Fan, 1
....!Fan shroud
5...!Floormats
3...!Foglights and brackets
....FRA mod
....!Gas, Extra
2.5.!Glovebox
1...!Grill insert
4...!Hatch cover
2...!Hatch shocks
....!Headlights
....!Headliner
3...!Head unit
....!Head unit/AC console trim piece
8...!Heat sheilding
9...!Heater core
1...!Hood shocks
3...!Horn
3...!Inner fenderwells, plastic
....!Liscense plate brackets
....!Liscense plate(s)
....!Misc. junk in the car like keys, garage remote, change, owner's manual, etc.
1...!Owner's manual
3...!Panels, under steering wheel
5....Panhard rod brace, upper
....!Parking brake
....!Power brake booster
....!Parking brake handle
....!Power seat motor
11..!Power steering pump, pulley, idler pulley
....!Power window motors
1...!Rear view mirror
9...!Seatbelts (rears and passenger's)
34..!Seat, passenger's
19..!Seats, rear
3...!Sheetmetal, extra double walled
....!Shifter ****
5...!Side impact bars
35..!Spare tire and jack
7...!Speaker panels, hatch
5...!Speaker panels, rear passenger's
15..!Speakers
35..!Spoiler (Weight measured on a Pontiac)
....!Spring isolators
2...!Sun visors
14..!Swaybar and brackets, front
....!Taillight(s)
2...!T-Top holders
....!Under car tow points
1...!Washer fluid pump
9...!Windshield washer fluid
2...!Windshield wiper reservoir
3...!Wiper arms
3...!Wiper motor
....!Wiring, Excess
Wallet mods....
3...Airlid, aftermarket
3...Chromoly LCAs
3/9.Carbon fiber driveshaft
14..Chromoly A-arms
30.5Chromoly K-member
....Draglite wheels
....Drag slicks or street slicks
....Drilled axles
24..Dry cell battery
10..Electric water pump
....Fiberglass door skins
30..Fiberglass hood
....Fuel cell
18..'99+ fuel tank for '98 cars
....Headers
....Lexan glass
....Lightweight clothing
35..Lightweight brakes, front
....Lightweight brakes, rear
10..Lightweight flywheel
13..Lightweight springs and shocks
....Lightweight steering column
6...Lightweight steering wheel
10..Manual rack and pinion steering
....Plastic fuel tank, late model
....Powerglide, TH350, or M4 transmission
17/29.Racing seat
....Shortbelt mod
....Skinny front tires
15..Spool
20..TQ converter, small
....Underdrive pulleys
#5
Re: Here is something you can go by......
Originally posted by 94 TA TT2S
Free stuff....
....!Brake pedal pad
1...!Owner's manual
Wallet mods....
....Lightweight clothing
Free stuff....
....!Brake pedal pad
1...!Owner's manual
Wallet mods....
....Lightweight clothing
#6
as someone pointed out a while back, for some of us this is a great weight reduction mod:
!cheeseburgers
I don't know about you all, but I weigh in at about 260Lbs, so I could pull about .05 off my time just by losing some weight
!cheeseburgers
I don't know about you all, but I weigh in at about 260Lbs, so I could pull about .05 off my time just by losing some weight
#7
Originally posted by magius231
as someone pointed out a while back, for some of us this is a great weight reduction mod:
!cheeseburgers
I don't know about you all, but I weigh in at about 260Lbs, so I could pull about .05 off my time just by losing some weight
as someone pointed out a while back, for some of us this is a great weight reduction mod:
!cheeseburgers
I don't know about you all, but I weigh in at about 260Lbs, so I could pull about .05 off my time just by losing some weight
It's funny 'casue it's true.... Jenny Craig here I come!
Later,
Mike
#8
http://www.ls1tech.com/threads/showf...5&o=31&fpart=1
I think that's the page you were talkin about Injuneer. I'll read it and prob take off some of those parts mentioned. btw, I only weigh 135#'s.
I think that's the page you were talkin about Injuneer. I'll read it and prob take off some of those parts mentioned. btw, I only weigh 135#'s.
#9
I weighed in at 170 or so and then I purchased my car (and became a member of CZ28.com) I am not officially 235 pounds...just went downstairs and weighed in hahaha
this place makes you fat b/c instead of working out, I'm sitting here, eating food, reading a screen. (its like smoking)
this place makes you fat b/c instead of working out, I'm sitting here, eating food, reading a screen. (its like smoking)
#10
One of the problems is that a lot of the high performance stuff adds weight... in my case, the roll bar (chrome moly, but still maybe 60#), TH400, Gear Vendor, Spohn TA, etc. all added weight as fast as I could remove it. With no A/C, no rear seat or belts, and reasonably light weight Weld wheels and skinnies, the Formula still weighed 3,760# with me (185#) on the Englishtown scale.
I thought I'd save weight with a 16# Corbeau Forza seat, in place of the 36# stock seat, but the "slider" mounting bracket for the Corbeau added 10# back in.
Recent removals from the 3,760# weight include:
-front bumper filler and beam
-cruise control
-front sway bar
-stock steering wheel/airbag (Grant wheel added)
-radio, speakers and antenna
-AIR pump, lines
-EGR valve
Recent additions include:
-Spohn "drag race" rear sway bar (29#, minus weight of stock stuff)
-wider slicks, and added tubes
I thought I'd save weight with a 16# Corbeau Forza seat, in place of the 36# stock seat, but the "slider" mounting bracket for the Corbeau added 10# back in.
Recent removals from the 3,760# weight include:
-front bumper filler and beam
-cruise control
-front sway bar
-stock steering wheel/airbag (Grant wheel added)
-radio, speakers and antenna
-AIR pump, lines
-EGR valve
Recent additions include:
-Spohn "drag race" rear sway bar (29#, minus weight of stock stuff)
-wider slicks, and added tubes
#11
I'm trying to remove the rear seatback, but is there a way to get it detached from the seat belts w/out cutting em? I'd really like to have it so that everything I take off can be put back on if I ever feel like it again. Any tips, or tools to use to undo the seatbelts from the seatbacks?? thnx again..
#14
Your engine mounts weigh a hefty 55-60pounds themselves. If you got the time, (or more importantly money) go ahead and get aftermarket ones. They are actually 20 pounds lighter and have a reported "significant" difference when accelerating on and off the track.
Just my .02
Ruben F.
Just my .02
Ruben F.
#15
Would any of you guys beat me up if I was considering letting my Girlfriend drive my car at the track. With my time in sig, she was in the car with me, (almost got in trouble for havin a passenger with me in the 13's). to show her how to do it. If she gets the 2nd to 3rd shift down she may get another .2 off my time. My lard a$$ out, almost 200#, and with her at the wheel at about 100#, I think I,... I mean her and my Z could get around a 13.7x at 100+. Thats some cheap weight reduction