what sealant for head bolts
#5
cool thanks guys...i went to orealy's, advanced auto, and autozone looking for No.2...even tried summit....lol i looked up a pepboys (only 3 in mi) and it turned out theres one right buy me...went in there and found permatex No.2 on the shelf...3.99$ picked up a tube and thought i was ready to go.....but now sealant is the very least of my worries...
#8
I know #2 is called out for a gasket maker/sealant, but I've used it for years on head bolts and other apps where the bolt will penetrate a water jacket. Never had a problem. If there's a drawback to using it, the only thing I've seen is it tends to goop up threads pretty well, and you will have to chase all the threads with a cleanout tap for any R+R on the bolts....but then again, I would never assemble an engine without first chasing all the bolt holes anyways. Same goes for any standard R+R of heads, or anything else requiring specific torque. Can't remember who recommended that stuff to me, but like I said, I've never seen a problem with it
#9
I just did my heads a few weeks ago. You'll need two tubes of the thread sealant that was posted above...I used the exact same stuff and barely had enough (two tubes). Also a few suggestions:
1 - Make sure the head bolts go into the right holes. I believe there were 3 sizes.
2 - lube the underside of the bolt head and the underside of the washer with the lube that came with the bolts (if you got ARP) or if not, get some. This is essential for proper torquing. Don't get any on the threads.
3 - Coat each bolt thread with the sealant.
4 - There is a specific torqueing sequence to follow. Follow it...I personally went hand tight the first round, 25 lbs the 2nd round and final torque 70lbs? the final round. If you don't approximate this you'll warp the heads, so I've been told.
5 - Don't damage the head gasket(s) trying to get the heads lined up/placed on the block. There are guide pins on the block that should enter small holes on the heads..try to be precise lowering the heads onto these pins or they WILL gouge your heads.
6 - If you follow shoebox's procedure for tightening the rockers, you will not go wrong. Before doing this I never even took an engine apart before but got it right the first time thanks to shoebox's site.
1 - Make sure the head bolts go into the right holes. I believe there were 3 sizes.
2 - lube the underside of the bolt head and the underside of the washer with the lube that came with the bolts (if you got ARP) or if not, get some. This is essential for proper torquing. Don't get any on the threads.
3 - Coat each bolt thread with the sealant.
4 - There is a specific torqueing sequence to follow. Follow it...I personally went hand tight the first round, 25 lbs the 2nd round and final torque 70lbs? the final round. If you don't approximate this you'll warp the heads, so I've been told.
5 - Don't damage the head gasket(s) trying to get the heads lined up/placed on the block. There are guide pins on the block that should enter small holes on the heads..try to be precise lowering the heads onto these pins or they WILL gouge your heads.
6 - If you follow shoebox's procedure for tightening the rockers, you will not go wrong. Before doing this I never even took an engine apart before but got it right the first time thanks to shoebox's site.
#10
Permatex® Form-A-Gasket® No. 2 Sealant
Slow-drying, non-hardening sealant designed for sealing cut gaskets and stamped parts. Allows for easy disassembly if required. Temperature range -65°F to 400°F (-54°C to 204°C); resists common shop fluids and fuels. Use where sealing is more important than adhesion.
Suggested Applications: Valve cover gaskets, oil pan gaskets
Slow-drying, non-hardening sealant designed for sealing cut gaskets and stamped parts. Allows for easy disassembly if required. Temperature range -65°F to 400°F (-54°C to 204°C); resists common shop fluids and fuels. Use where sealing is more important than adhesion.
Suggested Applications: Valve cover gaskets, oil pan gaskets
Permatex® High Temperature Thread Sealant
OEM specified. Locks and seals threaded fittings. Resists leakage, vibration loosening, moisture, hydraulic fluids and diesel fuels. Lubricates threads for easy assembly and disassembly. Won’t shred or wear like thread seal tape. Parts may be repositioned up to 4 hours after application. Temperature range from -65°F to 400°F (-54°C to 204°C). Contains PTFE.
Suggested Applications: Head bolts into through holes, oil PSI sending units and sensors, oil and coolant lines, fuel fittings, rear axle fill plug, brake and power steering fittings
OEM specified. Locks and seals threaded fittings. Resists leakage, vibration loosening, moisture, hydraulic fluids and diesel fuels. Lubricates threads for easy assembly and disassembly. Won’t shred or wear like thread seal tape. Parts may be repositioned up to 4 hours after application. Temperature range from -65°F to 400°F (-54°C to 204°C). Contains PTFE.
Suggested Applications: Head bolts into through holes, oil PSI sending units and sensors, oil and coolant lines, fuel fittings, rear axle fill plug, brake and power steering fittings
#12
I know #2 is called out for a gasket maker/sealant, but I've used it for years on head bolts and other apps where the bolt will penetrate a water jacket. Never had a problem. If there's a drawback to using it, the only thing I've seen is it tends to goop up threads pretty well, and you will have to chase all the threads with a cleanout tap for any R+R on the bolts....but then again, I would never assemble an engine without first chasing all the bolt holes anyways. Same goes for any standard R+R of heads, or anything else requiring specific torque. Can't remember who recommended that stuff to me, but like I said, I've never seen a problem with it
However, I have argued for a long time against using #2 on thread bolts. I even called Permatex and they told me not to use #2 on head bolts. Use the high temp thread sealer as above. I've been using it for a long time on the water pump bolts, oil pressure sender, etc with no issues. I will also use it on my head bolts when I put my engine back together(I will wash the block for final assembly this weekend...woohoo!!).
All that said, some swear by the #2 for head bolts. To each his own.
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