94formulabz

Not disputing that its a good cam or that franks car isn't EXTREMELY quick, but come on be realistic, its not just the cam that is making that car fast.

-brent

Valkyn71

what benefits would the Crane 210/224 have over the XE224/230?



Picking out a cam is about driving me nuts, everyone has a different suggestion and the only way to really tell would be to ride in a car identical to what i want except for the cam.

I was set on the 224/230, then i heard about the 218/224, and now the 210/230...So far i still think the 224/230 is what i want, good gains on stock heads, and increased if i want to port and polish later.

thanks for all the input

JJ's95B4C

How does the CC305 compare with the 218/224 and 224/230? I'm in the same situation where I'm not going to touch the heads, and I don't want to swap the torque converter. I'm still debating b/w those 3 cams. I was almost set on the CC305 until I started reading all the great reviews of the XE cams.

truedualws6

I'm in CA and want to pass smog, plus I don't want
computer tuning hassles, so I am going with the
Crane 210/224. If you don't have any smog issues
and don't mind getting a custom tune then go with
a bigger cam.

I also got all the lopey idle stuff out of my system about
20 years ago. Not that I don't love the sound of a lopey
V8, but I'm not interested in it for this car at this time. It
would be nice to be able to listen to and ride in cars with
the cams you are considering but that is tough to put
together. I went through all the same stuff before selecting
the Crane.

97SS0594

if any one wants a 224/230 i got one i think i wanna step to a cc306 the 224/230 is on a114 lsa hit me up @ plays_cool@msn.com

94GrayV6

Oh I know, but that cam is just badass on stock heads. I guarantee you he wouldnt pull 1.48 60's with a CC306.

Area under the curve matters much more than peak numbers.

I'd love to see what frank could do with a big cam/ported AFRs.

stereomandan

I have overlaid dyno curves of the CC502 and the CC305 with similar bolt on mods. The CC305 and the CC502 were almost identical in performance up to 4900 RPM, and then the CC502 was about 6-8 ft lbs better (10 HP). The cool thing about the CC502 is less overlap, which means better gas milage and slightly better idle since the duration is less with the CC502.

Comp cams recommended the CC502 to me when I asked them to compare the CC305 to the CC502, mainly for the reasons listed above.

Dan

ImpySS

That's interesting. I would have thought the 305 would pull on the 502 past 5K.

stereomandan

At first look, so would I. The CC305 is 220/230 and the CC502 is 218/224. The big difference is the XE grind of the CC502. Of the two cams that I compared, the CC502 was a 111 LSA and the CC305 was on a 112 LSA, so that will help the CC502 do a little better up top. Besides that though, the grind of the CC502 allows the valves to stay open longer at max lift.

Dan

Rodrigues

Man these baby cams are making me sick! I have personally had the 224/230 cam and its a baby! I wish I would have known how small that cam really was before I installed it and now I changed to the 230/236 cam, but that one is now being removed for another cam!

hsyr

With the 306 and 847 you won't have to spin the motor to 6800rpm. I believe each one of those peaks around 6100rpm on stockheads. So you wouldn't have to shift much higher than that to get good ETs. Listen to some soundclips of them too. That isn't that choppy compared to a 242/248 or something. There has been people on the board that thought their Hotcams idled more choppy than the 306's they have switched too. I suggest you REALLY search around for the right cam, do you want to spend all that $ wishing you went bigger?

Valkyn71

from everything i have read, anything over 224/230 is not friendly with the stock heads or bottem end.


So i would rather be not quite as fast, than be really quick for a few days

Frank95z

I've been pleased with the 210/224 cam with stockheads but if you run ported heads I would not recommend it. Once you port your heads you will need more cam to maximize your combo. Frank95z

atljar

Agree and disagree here.

Idle is choppy, but i have heard hotcams sound meaner. All in your tune. On my website i have an idle clip (pics/video section) if you want to hear it.

Spinning it to 6800. Almost. The cam makes peak at 6100 or so on stock heads, but doesnt drop off until 6700 or so. I shift it right at 6700 or so at the track. Once again, i have dyno graph on website

hsyr

But do you think you would trap less if you shifted at say 64-6500rpm? Considering you peak at 6100 shifting at 6500 would bring you back to about 6100 (your peak). Just a thought.