Yank SS4000
07-07-2020, 11:01 AM
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07-08-2020, 09:06 AM
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Re: Yank SS4000
I don't think you can run 4:10 or anything lower than 2.xx gears in a series 2 carrier
depends on where you mount the external trans cooler. Size & shape will be dictated by that. Brand is not important, coolers are a simple device
so a 4k stall and 4:10's on a 100% stock motor....wtf. Lower gears I can see but a 4k stall on a stock motor...might want to consider something closer to 2800 or lower. TC stall and cam specs are what you want to match
If you are not doing this work yourself it can cost some $. Rear gear swap is generally $250-$500 labor if you supply parts. Trans shop likely charge at least $500 to R&R trans to put in a TC. Plumbing in a cooler, IDK but assume shop hr labor rate times x hrs
depends on where you mount the external trans cooler. Size & shape will be dictated by that. Brand is not important, coolers are a simple device
so a 4k stall and 4:10's on a 100% stock motor....wtf. Lower gears I can see but a 4k stall on a stock motor...might want to consider something closer to 2800 or lower. TC stall and cam specs are what you want to match
If you are not doing this work yourself it can cost some $. Rear gear swap is generally $250-$500 labor if you supply parts. Trans shop likely charge at least $500 to R&R trans to put in a TC. Plumbing in a cooler, IDK but assume shop hr labor rate times x hrs
getting the car to 600-800 hp to match what's out there (Hell cats, ZL1s) will cost a lot.. if racing was my intent, i would have gotten one of the newer cars..
i had a 94 Z28 A4 back in the 90's.. supercharged, hot cam kit with rockers, ported heads, ported intake, headers, 4.10 gears, 30lb injectors, 58 throttle body, k&n, tunes, suspension work and other bolt ons..
got it to 600+hp.. she was a beast and so much fun.. but it came with a price, repairs and many days without a car or stranded in the streets..
this time, i got this T-top Z with 85,000 original miles on it for the memories and good all days of the 90's.. so i decided to make it different and more about FUN not Racing..
Burn outs, donuts and launches from one light to the next one.. a loud tuned exhaust that would turn heads.. with untouched engine and trans for durability..
i have been searching for months regarding the stall, and ppl keep saying 3,600 stall with 3.73 is the best combo (like Fred said).. yet at the same time they say i wish i went higher to 4,000 or 4,400.. i called https://www.converter.cc and asked them if it is ok to put 4,000 on a stock engine, they said it would be fine with the SS series.. incase i decided more mods, i will be ready..
now 4.10 gears is kind of once you try them you can't go any lower.. i broke so many in the past (installed by Chevy dealer by the way).. so i wanted to give AAM gears a try..
Sound: Kooks LTs, Kooks OFF road Y-PIPE, Cats and Muffler Delete..
fun: 4.10 gears, 4,000 stall, nitto tiers, lowering suspensions and 12 bolt rear end..
Breathing: K&N, 52 throttle body, TB bypass..
hope you got the picture and your point are well valid and taken..
Thanks..
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07-08-2020, 09:14 AM
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Re: Yank SS4000
regarding the gears.. i set my mind on AAM.. somehow Fedex return the package back to me again yesterday.. don't know why yet even tho i refused it the day before.. so i decided to switch to 3-series carrier..
07-08-2020, 10:29 AM
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Re: Yank SS4000
MM6 and MN6 are for a 6-speed manual, not an A4. GU6 is the 3.42 rear gears, which means 3-series carrier. 3.42’s were standard on all 6-speeds 1994 and newer. Never available on an A4. G80 is the limited slip rear, standard w/ all V8 models.
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07-09-2020, 12:25 AM
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Re: Yank SS4000
Thanks Fred..
couldn't tell if it was A4 or manual (car was mostly striped) i just went straight to the axle and started unbolting.. i guess i wasted my time..
what parts exactly i need to change to turn my carrier into a 3-series?? just the posi?? and manual carrier component will not work for an A4??
i have been searching but can't find the answer..
couldn't tell if it was A4 or manual (car was mostly striped) i just went straight to the axle and started unbolting.. i guess i wasted my time..
what parts exactly i need to change to turn my carrier into a 3-series?? just the posi?? and manual carrier component will not work for an A4??
i have been searching but can't find the answer..
07-09-2020, 08:41 AM
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Re: Yank SS4000
AAM were the original gear supplier to GM, good gears. IDK if they are still in biz or have been "acquired" by offshore (china) company. I recently bought Richmond gears which, like Motive, are made in Italy but different foundries. Both are regarded very good in comparison to what used to be USA made gears that are now made in India or China
I "think" you need the whole rear end for the 3 series. Ideally someone can confirm
On the small F body rear end (7.5"?) when you get to a ring gear size like 4:10 those can be fragile compared to higher gear ratios. A stock motor though should be OK through a A4
OP, I get why you want high stall, low gears for quick light to light street fun. IMHO 4k TC is on the high side. Ideally the SS series of converter is a tight one so it won't be wtf why does it take so many rpm's to get the car moving kind of thing common to high stall converters on the street. No doubt you will need a additional external trans cooler and if it were me I would install a trans temp gauge. You will shiat when you see 220+ degree trans temps without the external cooler
I "think" you need the whole rear end for the 3 series. Ideally someone can confirm
On the small F body rear end (7.5"?) when you get to a ring gear size like 4:10 those can be fragile compared to higher gear ratios. A stock motor though should be OK through a A4
OP, I get why you want high stall, low gears for quick light to light street fun. IMHO 4k TC is on the high side. Ideally the SS series of converter is a tight one so it won't be wtf why does it take so many rpm's to get the car moving kind of thing common to high stall converters on the street. No doubt you will need a additional external trans cooler and if it were me I would install a trans temp gauge. You will shiat when you see 220+ degree trans temps without the external cooler
07-23-2020, 01:41 AM
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Re: Yank SS4000
AAM were the original gear supplier to GM, good gears. IDK if they are still in biz or have been "acquired" by offshore (china) company. I recently bought Richmond gears which, like Motive, are made in Italy but different foundries. Both are regarded very good in comparison to what used to be USA made gears that are now made in India or China
I "think" you need the whole rear end for the 3 series. Ideally someone can confirm
On the small F body rear end (7.5"?) when you get to a ring gear size like 4:10 those can be fragile compared to higher gear ratios. A stock motor though should be OK through a A4
OP, I get why you want high stall, low gears for quick light to light street fun. IMHO 4k TC is on the high side. Ideally the SS series of converter is a tight one so it won't be wtf why does it take so many rpm's to get the car moving kind of thing common to high stall converters on the street. No doubt you will need a additional external trans cooler and if it were me I would install a trans temp gauge. You will shiat when you see 220+ degree trans temps without the external cooler
I "think" you need the whole rear end for the 3 series. Ideally someone can confirm
On the small F body rear end (7.5"?) when you get to a ring gear size like 4:10 those can be fragile compared to higher gear ratios. A stock motor though should be OK through a A4
OP, I get why you want high stall, low gears for quick light to light street fun. IMHO 4k TC is on the high side. Ideally the SS series of converter is a tight one so it won't be wtf why does it take so many rpm's to get the car moving kind of thing common to high stall converters on the street. No doubt you will need a additional external trans cooler and if it were me I would install a trans temp gauge. You will shiat when you see 220+ degree trans temps without the external cooler
07-24-2020, 09:24 AM
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Re: Yank SS4000
Unless you ordered something different from the standard SS4000 stall, It will creep forward at idle and drive almost normal. The 4000 is what it'll 'flash' to when you do WOT. City traffic will be slightly different but only takes one drive to get used to it and you'll be smiling.
07-30-2020, 11:37 AM
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Thank you.. that is exactly what i was hoping it would be like..
it's been almost a month and i have not received the converter yet.. i thought about what Fred said.. so i called them up and changed it to 3,600 stall (since it is the most popular one).. if i needed more, i can still send it back and upgrade it to 4,000.. l'm hoping to receive it soon..
it's been almost a month and i have not received the converter yet.. i thought about what Fred said.. so i called them up and changed it to 3,600 stall (since it is the most popular one).. if i needed more, i can still send it back and upgrade it to 4,000.. l'm hoping to receive it soon..
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