Treys official NY vs MI comparison (not bashing michigan)
12-19-2002 | 04:21 PM
#17
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I'll break out th edirt bike and stud the tires. Give ya a ski rope and you can show ski behind me at speeds you never dreamed of. Man I miss that place sometimes, then I remember that it is the place to stick the tube if the world needed a enemia. Only good to visit now.
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12-19-2002 | 06:32 PM
#18
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Originally posted by dreamer1q
I'll break out th edirt bike and stud the tires. Give ya a ski rope and you can show ski behind me at speeds you never dreamed of. Man I miss that place sometimes, then I remember that it is the place to stick the tube if the world needed a enemia. Only good to visit now.
Q
I'll break out th edirt bike and stud the tires. Give ya a ski rope and you can show ski behind me at speeds you never dreamed of. Man I miss that place sometimes, then I remember that it is the place to stick the tube if the world needed a enemia. Only good to visit now.
Q
and well. don't even get me involved in the union debate. my dad is a skilled trades chairman for the UAW. we have a big UAW family
im all for tip up town by the way !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
12-19-2002 | 10:30 PM
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[QUOTE]thanks for ending the debate like i asked and others asked several times *******[/QUOTE
Trey,
Sorry, I was'nt trying to flame things up.But if you read my post at all you would have seen that I was Talking about Japanese Management and unions hardly came up.
Once again sorry and I'm done with it.
James
Trey,
Sorry, I was'nt trying to flame things up.But if you read my post at all you would have seen that I was Talking about Japanese Management and unions hardly came up.
Once again sorry and I'm done with it.James
12-19-2002 | 11:59 PM
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Re: Treys official NY vs MI comparison (not bashing michigan)
Originally posted by treyZ28
Michigan: I have an suv/truck because I need it for work or I need 4x4 for the weather
NY: I have an suv/truck because I need it to look trendy or my family of 4 needs seating for 7?
Michigan: I have an suv/truck because I need it for work or I need 4x4 for the weather
NY: I have an suv/truck because I need it to look trendy or my family of 4 needs seating for 7?
The rest are pretty true too.
12-20-2002 | 08:09 AM
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"I might start a flame with this, but its good to see another person bash all the friggin UNIONS in MI. They suck."
I dont know who the hell you guys think you are. If you dont like the Unions, then take your A$$ back to wherever you came from.
Yes, I am a Teamster. I didn't respect the union as much 2 years ago, as I do now. I got into a car wreck & totaled my 00 SS, and got banged up pretty good. Got one more surgery late Feb, then I'm ready to go back to work.
After being off for 2 years, because of the Union, I will not only still have my job, but will have gained at least 70 spots in senority, that means more $$ in my pockets.
Tell me, how many places that you have worked at that will still have your job waiting for you, after an accident, no mater if it is 5 years down the road? Not to mention gaining senority.
Pick something else to bitch about besides the Unions, like the bald fat women, although from what I have seen, they seem to be nationwide. have a good day.
I dont know who the hell you guys think you are. If you dont like the Unions, then take your A$$ back to wherever you came from.
Yes, I am a Teamster. I didn't respect the union as much 2 years ago, as I do now. I got into a car wreck & totaled my 00 SS, and got banged up pretty good. Got one more surgery late Feb, then I'm ready to go back to work.
After being off for 2 years, because of the Union, I will not only still have my job, but will have gained at least 70 spots in senority, that means more $$ in my pockets.
Tell me, how many places that you have worked at that will still have your job waiting for you, after an accident, no mater if it is 5 years down the road? Not to mention gaining senority.
Pick something else to bitch about besides the Unions, like the bald fat women, although from what I have seen, they seem to be nationwide.
have a good day.
12-20-2002 | 08:33 AM
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Originally posted by Black Sunshine/ 00SS
"I might start a flame with this, but its good to see another person bash all the friggin UNIONS in MI. They suck."
I dont know who the hell you guys think you are. If you dont like the Unions, then take your A$$ back to wherever you came from.
Yes, I am a Teamster. I didn't respect the union as much 2 years ago, as I do now. I got into a car wreck & totaled my 00 SS, and got banged up pretty good. Got one more surgery late Feb, then I'm ready to go back to work.
After being off for 2 years, because of the Union, I will not only still have my job, but will have gained at least 70 spots in senority, that means more $$ in my pockets.
Tell me, how many places that you have worked at that will still have your job waiting for you, after an accident, no mater if it is 5 years down the road? Not to mention gaining senority.
Pick something else to bitch about besides the Unions, like the bald fat women, although from what I have seen, they seem to be nationwide. have a good day.
"I might start a flame with this, but its good to see another person bash all the friggin UNIONS in MI. They suck."
I dont know who the hell you guys think you are. If you dont like the Unions, then take your A$$ back to wherever you came from.
Yes, I am a Teamster. I didn't respect the union as much 2 years ago, as I do now. I got into a car wreck & totaled my 00 SS, and got banged up pretty good. Got one more surgery late Feb, then I'm ready to go back to work.
After being off for 2 years, because of the Union, I will not only still have my job, but will have gained at least 70 spots in senority, that means more $$ in my pockets.
Tell me, how many places that you have worked at that will still have your job waiting for you, after an accident, no mater if it is 5 years down the road? Not to mention gaining senority.
Pick something else to bitch about besides the Unions, like the bald fat women, although from what I have seen, they seem to be nationwide.
have a good day.
You wreck your car, do nothing for 2 years, get a promotion and make more money. And this is fair? yea its great for you, but what about the poor shmuck who was WORKING those two years who didn't get teh big fat bonus.
12-20-2002 | 08:35 AM
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Originally posted by 94_formula
usually more fun with a quad or snowmobile. get to neck breaking speeds in no time!!! i know what you mean.
and well. don't even get me involved in the union debate. my dad is a skilled trades chairman for the UAW. we have a big UAW family
im all for tip up town by the way !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
usually more fun with a quad or snowmobile. get to neck breaking speeds in no time!!! i know what you mean.
and well. don't even get me involved in the union debate. my dad is a skilled trades chairman for the UAW. we have a big UAW family
im all for tip up town by the way !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you dont count
you smell funny
12-20-2002 | 09:37 AM
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Funny how all the union haters are the ones who want to stop the debate. Perhaps it's because their only arguments are that union workers are "overpaid"(compared to who?), "lazy"(some, but not the majority), and... ummmm... hmmmm... Those seem to be all they can come up with.
Trey, the "poor shmuck" who was working during that time also gained senority and got raises. Duh.
Bottom line is, if you're non-union and making less than a union worker(for 40 hours, OT $$ don't count), then you're either on the bottom-rung of your proffession with lots of room to advance, or you're stuck in a s**tty job.
Trey, the "poor shmuck" who was working during that time also gained senority and got raises. Duh.
Bottom line is, if you're non-union and making less than a union worker(for 40 hours, OT $$ don't count), then you're either on the bottom-rung of your proffession with lots of room to advance, or you're stuck in a s**tty job.
12-20-2002 | 09:44 AM
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Originally posted by cASe SenSiTive
Funny how all the union haters are the ones who want to stop the debate. Perhaps it's because their only arguments are that union workers are "overpaid"(compared to who?), "lazy"(some, but not the majority), and... ummmm... hmmmm... Those seem to be all they can come up with.
Trey, the "poor shmuck" who was working during that time also gained senority and got raises. Duh.
Bottom line is, if you're non-union and making less than a union worker(for 40 hours, OT $$ don't count), then you're either on the bottom-rung of your proffession with lots of room to advance, or you're stuck in a s**tty job.
Funny how all the union haters are the ones who want to stop the debate. Perhaps it's because their only arguments are that union workers are "overpaid"(compared to who?), "lazy"(some, but not the majority), and... ummmm... hmmmm... Those seem to be all they can come up with.
Trey, the "poor shmuck" who was working during that time also gained senority and got raises. Duh.
Bottom line is, if you're non-union and making less than a union worker(for 40 hours, OT $$ don't count), then you're either on the bottom-rung of your proffession with lots of room to advance, or you're stuck in a s**tty job.
12-20-2002 | 11:14 AM
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Just one more to stop the union debate!
My father use to be the vice president of the UAW at the GM Warren Tech Center, he saved lots of jobs and kept more work in the US instead of Mexico. Because of the unions GM's trucks are still mostly american made and by the way they union people over there in Warren along with the non-union engineers designed the LS1 and LT1 engines and without the union your camaro/firebirds engines would have been made in Mexico. I also have to be pro-union because my family has always driven real american cars and like the sticker says on my dads toolboxes in the garage "These tools were bought with union negotiated wages, if you don't like the union don't touch them!" Go down to Kentucky and tell the people who build the vettes you don't like unions, just don't drive a vette. I remember going to union parades and to the tech center and being able to drive vettes with non-production high powered concept engines and hummers with 454's these union people do the experimenting to get the right engines into your cars. And gee which would you rather have american's getting paid $25 to sweep the floors around the cars you buy or someone in another country doing it and that american worker standing in the unemployment line?
Now we can stop the union posting if you want or keep it going, either way is fine with me the UAW gets me unlimited AOL real cheap so I'll be on here.
My father use to be the vice president of the UAW at the GM Warren Tech Center, he saved lots of jobs and kept more work in the US instead of Mexico. Because of the unions GM's trucks are still mostly american made and by the way they union people over there in Warren along with the non-union engineers designed the LS1 and LT1 engines and without the union your camaro/firebirds engines would have been made in Mexico. I also have to be pro-union because my family has always driven real american cars and like the sticker says on my dads toolboxes in the garage "These tools were bought with union negotiated wages, if you don't like the union don't touch them!" Go down to Kentucky and tell the people who build the vettes you don't like unions, just don't drive a vette. I remember going to union parades and to the tech center and being able to drive vettes with non-production high powered concept engines and hummers with 454's these union people do the experimenting to get the right engines into your cars. And gee which would you rather have american's getting paid $25 to sweep the floors around the cars you buy or someone in another country doing it and that american worker standing in the unemployment line?
Now we can stop the union posting if you want or keep it going, either way is fine with me the UAW gets me unlimited AOL real cheap so I'll be on here.
12-20-2002 | 11:26 AM
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Originally posted by dreamer1q
Trey, so your starting to like Michigan. You need to bring your happy *** over here this winter. We can go up north to my familys home on Houghton Lake and go to Tip Up Town and do some snowmobiling. I'll freeze your little new york *** off, then fill ya up with pepermint schaanps to warm ya up. When your ready say the word, and you can bring me that damn timing gear
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Trey, so your starting to like Michigan. You need to bring your happy *** over here this winter. We can go up north to my familys home on Houghton Lake and go to Tip Up Town and do some snowmobiling. I'll freeze your little new york *** off, then fill ya up with pepermint schaanps to warm ya up. When your ready say the word, and you can bring me that damn timing gear
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